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#20 (permalink) |
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Fresh Noob
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since im guessing your are here in the states i would recommend www.realnissan.com good ka turbo stuff
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A friend of mine has a hatchback with a blacktop SR20DET and just recently upgraded the stock turbo for a garrett GT28RS(Disco Potatoe). Man that thing hauls like you wouldn't believe and looses traction when he punches it. His boost is stock for right now. He plans to upgrade his intercooler, MAF(Z32) and fuel injectors. I'm actually thinking of getting the GT28RS for my 3SGTE powered MR2.
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#23 (permalink) |
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Fanatic Tremekian
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I have an RB20DET powered S13. One of the only 2 cars to beat me was aKA24DE-T S14 running 9lbs of boost on a stock Z31 tirbo and a volvo intercooler. He also had Sr20DET 370cc injectors and an SAFC. That was all. 9 lbs is too much for a stock KA and he has blown 2 engines in the last year, but damn they are fast. You can run about 7lbs on a stock KA and about 9lbs with some forged pistons. 11-12 lbs with some forged rods and arp head bolts. But then you are talkin 375ish hp at the wheels. And it will have a much brosder powerband than the SR or the RB
I have crushed every SR I have ever raced (5)! Not even close! Some with more mods than I have A KA turbo will cost you about $1500. An RB20DET will cost about $2200-2500 to install and an SR will cost $2500+ just to buy it. And thats not even shipped. I cant figure out why people buy them! And you cant even rev them above 7500-800rpm with out the head coming apart! ![]() |
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Fresh Noob
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supad0rk is talking about my 240sx, its a 92' SE and we want to know if i add on upgrades to it like a turbo and little things like a cat back exhaust, cold air intake, upgraded clutch, ecu upgrades, etc. if i can stay up with an SR20dDET performance wise, both me and supad0rk are into drifting and racing downhill, so he says that a stock KA24DE doesnt have enough power for good drifts caz the KA is a trucks engine.
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#25 (permalink) |
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Fanatic Tremekian
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That's what makes a KA a good drift motor. That "truck" engine has a wide torque band and works perfectly fine with a few mods as a drift engine. We have several mildly modded KA's in our group that drift VERY well and three turbo KA's that are the best drift cars of the group. One just recently removed the KA-T and swapped a CA18DET. All three KA turbo's have never been beat by an SR and all are running 6 or 7 lbs. of boost. The SR is the most over rated engine out there (Except maybe a B18C) They mentioned them in Fast and Furious and now everyone has to have one. They dont even know why!
The KA turbo has more power, more torque and a wider response curve than an SR running the same boost. The KA has a much longer stroke! Build a KA24DE with a T04E oncenter housing (to clear the brake booster) with a small (60ish) trim and you will be amazed. A larger trim will give you more power and more lag. All of the power will be at the top end of the powerband. Not what you need for drift. Smmoth even power across the widest band is what makes a good drift engine. And with the KA... if you blow it... Throw it in the gutta and go buy anutha! They are cheap and cheap to build. You can build 2 or 3 turbo KA's for the price of an SR motor swap! And they still have more power! |
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#26 (permalink) |
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Fanatic Tremekian
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And with an SR, if you spend much time on the rev liimiter... (you WILL if you drift
) Then it will be slingin' rocker arms What a piece. I have a buddy (owns Unstable Hybrids) in Atlanta that uses his SR 240 as a shop car to get cigarettes and yohoos because he hates it so much. |
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#28 (permalink) |
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Fresh Noob
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then how did the SR20DET get so blown out of proportion? is it just because thats what they come with in japan? and what would be the best drift suspension for my 240, i was thinking the TIEN drift suspension package, but it cost like $2,000. i'm willing to pay it but i want to know if thats one of the best out there or if theres better and if i can drive on the streets with that type of suspension.
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#29 (permalink) |
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Fanatic Tremekian
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I dont know how they got blown so out of proportion. i guess cause Jonny Tran in 2F2F wanted to know where his were...
SR20's command quite a premium 2 weeks before race wars!I have JIC Magic coilovers on mine. The Teins are only like $1200 unless you buy the electronicly adjustable ones ( I cant remember the name, I'm not a tein user) you would have little need for those unless you were a professional drifter, and then you wouldn't be on here asking about coilovers. Buy any good brand... Tein, JIC Kei Office, Nismo, Cusco, the list goes on and on. They all start about $1200 for a decent set of drift coilovers. If you buy them new, some manufacturers allow you to select your spring rates. I have 8kg in the front and 6kg in the rear. with highly damped cartiges. Mine rides like a wheelbarrow, but that what a drift suspension is like. There is no soft drift suspension. Thats like asking for a 1000hp blown 426hemi that gets great gas mileage. Is you car a daily driver that you play with, or is it a drift car? If it is not a drift car (only) then I would just get one of the standard coilover sets offered by whatever manufacturer that you prefer. Tein has many different sets HA, HE , etc. Go on their website and look at the differences. Look at the spring rates, that will tell you a lot. 8kg front/6kg rear is pretty stiff but not the tightest. I have seen a set at 11/9. Stock is something like 4/2 or 3/2. Skip the electronicly adjustables unless you are VERY serious DI competitor. You could spend the extra 800 bucks on something more useful, like tires to practice on. We sometimes go through 2 pairs of rear tires a night per car. That gets expensive quick. For drifting, the first mods I recomend are: LSD rear end set of extra junk rims to put drift tires on: then Coilovers then engine mods You can drift the hell out of a stock 240 with an LSD and coilovers. If you cant drift that then more power isn't going to help. Drifting is about control, NOT what the Japanese call "powerover" Sliding into and through the turn is more stylish than sliding out of the turn! |
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#30 (permalink) |
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Fresh Noob
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well i was just asking about the engines caz me and supad0rk were at a disagreement and u helped me out and proved me right. but i know the basics of drifting and i know that powers not that important. so thinks for the suggestion oh how to start out any way. but i think the first thing that should come are racing seats, four point harness' and a role cage. and of course an LSD. i got one question that u didn't get to though, i know that some suspensions are illegal in cali so i want a good recomendation for a stiff suspension that i can use on the street. oh, and right now its just a daily driver but it'll be just a project car in about three years when i get my Evo, then i'll drop in the pro suspension and a higher level clutch, and just pretty much make it an awesome closed track drift machine. oh, yah and i have a friend who says that the SR20DET can be legalized in cali if u take it to the "referee", well thats what he said, do u have any clue if theres any truth in that statement? thnx alot nismoron.
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