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Old 08 Sep 2004, 06:36 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Hey I'm Derek im getting a new car and i don't know which one to get really so yeah...someone try and help me out here, my options are...
1995 Mazda RX-7
1997-2000 Ford Mustang GT
1997-2000 Ford Mustang Cobra
1995-1999 Mitsubishi 3000gt VR-4
1995-2002 Pontiac Trans Am
1994-1996 Nissan 300zx turbo
1993-2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 or SS
That's what i've got so far so tell me what you think cuz i don't which one is better than what seeing as i've never driven anything but the mustang gt, thanks
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Old 08 Sep 2004, 06:52 pm   #2 (permalink)
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From your list, I'd vote 1st for the Camaro then the Mazda. It's so easy to create more power with the LS1. I love the looks and potential of the Mazda, however I'd be a little tentative due to having zero knowledge of the rotary engine.

IMO, the Nissan and Mitsu are just too heavy and the Mustang's are not that powerful. From my limited experiences with them, they seem like they are more expensive to make fast. You'd know this, though. How light are they?

I don't know much about the WS engines, although aren't they pretty similar to Camaro engines?

Why don't you have '02 Cobra, an M3, or a WRX on your list? That year Cobra is obviously very fast. The WRX, speaking from experience, is fairly inexpensive to get into the 12's and it can be made to handle very well cheaply. I haven't really shopped for a used M3, but I'd be surprised if a '99 or '00 was too much more than any other car on your list.
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 11:04 am   #3 (permalink)
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Sounds like you have money that I don't have

I will just confirm the bit on the Nissans being heavy. I've driven two 300zx's, both with 6cyl non-turbo engines. One was an 86 automatic the other was an 89(i think) 5spd manual. Both cars were very fun and were pretty quick(I bet a turbo in it would make it fly), but I could DEFINATELY tell that they were just heavy to drive, heavy steering, etc. See I've got a Volvo 240 DL Wagon and it's just an amazing handling car, don't knock it til you drive it. It's got the best steering radius of any car I've ever driven. Even my dad who is a 20+yr experienced mechanic says that he hasn't seen anything like it before.

Erm, anyways..... Back on topic. I wouldn't think that the style of the 300's has changed much either. I know that in your list your talking about the newer models but I don't believe they are much different from the older ones.

I pretty much dislike all mustangs, they really aren't that powerful, just a sort of "American Icon" on sorts. I have no idea what the 3000GT is like, so I can't help you there.

If you want something to make lots of power, etc. then I would reccomend getting a Camaro or a Trans Am. Personally I like the looks of the Camaro better, and Z28 or SS doesn't matter to me

As for the RX7 I asked me dad about them and he said they have incredible horsepower potential but are pretty horrible on gas...

So really it depends on what your looking for. You have V6 and V8's listed, the V8's(any of them), won't be that great on gas, and a turbo charged v6 wont be much better. So you really need to look at what kind of drivng your going to be doing and what you want the car to do before you can make a decision.

I can spend your money for you -- btw... I have an 83 Z28 camaro for sale... BUY IT NOW - You could buy the Volvo too... hmmm
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 05:12 pm   #4 (permalink)
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I don't have enough money to afford an 02 mustang, and my dad won't let me modify my car or any car i buy, so I'm trying to find cars that go a a pretty decent amount faster than my current car...in answer to your question gpatmac, the 3000gt vr-4 weighs almost two tons, and almost all the other cars weight between 3000-3500 lbs i think, (i can't afford a wrx or an M3, i wish...) problem for buying cars is my dad won't let me get one with more than a certain amount of miles, and finding a newer gen M3 cheap with low miles is nearly impossible as far as i know...im leaning towards trans am or camaro though sp3ak i think that'd be good...the way i drive gas is always bad...highway on ramps and curvy roads...and red lights...basically everywhere, all bad for my gas mileage, i want to buy a car that when i turn 18 i can start modifying and take it to a track and what not...so im not sure, im thinking trans am but yeah...not sure, thanks guys i appreciate it
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Old 13 Sep 2004, 01:50 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Hey I'm Derek im getting a new car and i don't know which one to get really so yeah...someone try and help me out here, my options are...
1995 Mazda RX-7
1997-2000 Ford Mustang GT
1997-2000 Ford Mustang Cobra
1995-1999 Mitsubishi 3000gt VR-4
1995-2002 Pontiac Trans Am
1994-1996 Nissan 300zx turbo
1993-2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 or SS
That's what i've got so far so tell me what you think cuz i don't which one is better than what seeing as i've never driven anything but the mustang gt, thanks

The only thing i can say is if you dont have the cash for repairs and overhaul dont choose 3000gt lots of break downs and rx7 gas, overhaul of engine every 70k-100k if you want cheap and performance go american or nissan (I'm kinda bias towards nissan)

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Old 13 Sep 2004, 10:39 pm   #6 (permalink)
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I would get the 300zx turbo
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Camaro, what the other guy said about the LS1 is true, they are amazing motors. Doesn't take anything for them to be fast and the heads on them are awsome. As for gas milage, who cares
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Old 14 Sep 2004, 05:56 pm   #8 (permalink)
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I rode in a supercharged Firehawk today.... All I have to say is: damn.

It was in at my dad's shop to be fixed, so on the test drive it was only at like 50% power, but it threw me back in the seat... Anyways to make a long story short, there's amazing potential with the big V8's you get in Camaro's and Firebirds/TransAms/Firehawks, etc.

After that I must say, if you have the $$$ get a camaro or a pontiac if you want to create big power. Plus, if your a first time driver, the stock power of a V8 will be more than sufficient for you. I dont think it's wise to let first time drivers be behind the wheel of something they can't handle. Hell I've been driving for two years+ and I wouldn't want to touch the Firehawk I rode in. I drive a damned 80 billion ton 4cyl station wagon... 114hp beast I'm gonna take my horse power in stages... Stage 1 = 100-199hp, etc. SO Consider yourself lucky if you have th emoney to start out with such nice cars. PLUS, to go with what nohook said, LS1's,etc. are easy motors to miodfy. So you can get used to whatever you get with a camaro or firebird and then when your allowed to or you can afford to, you can get it tuned and crank out even more power.

Your car will go as fast as your wallet will let it....
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It all depends what you're looking for.

Of all those cars, the RX7 has the largest potential as an autocross or road course. It will be more fun to drive around and will feel better in the 'twisties'.

As well as being the best balanced (weight wise) of all these cars, it also has one of the higher potentials for power.

In my mind the RX7 would be the first choice. Following this purchase I would order a T66, manifold for single turbo conv. and supporting mods.

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I'd say the RX7 would be cool, but try finding a mechanic who knows anything about rotaries...The 3000GT VR4 is bad ass, lots of potential for power, awesome grip, kinda the underdog of the tuner world (no one respects them), but their expensive, and heavy. And apparently have reliability problems
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300ZX's are fast but heavy which hurts handling. The Mustang, more of a chick car than anything. Be it chicks like to drive it, or chicks like guys who drive it. But the GT is unimpressive, 260hp in the years you want, IIRC. My friend's 95 can barely outrun my Jeep Cherokee. The Cobra is cool, but unless you can afford the 02 with Supercharger, get a Camaro or Firebird. They've almost always been faster when you compare Z28 vs GT and SS vs Cobra. The only time in recent history a Mustang has been faster than a Camaro is in the V6 model and what's the point of them? Camaro vs Firebird is personal preference. The Camaro is quicker, but the Firebird is faster. I think the Camaro's just a little lighter, but I like the look of the Firebird, especially if you can get an exposed headlight conversion like they do on the SLP Firehawk. And BTW, the Camaro/Firebird engine is exactly the same. Up til about 97-98 it was the LT1, lots of power to be had. After that, it was the LS1, also, lots of power to be had.
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unless the 7 has been rebuilt already with 2pc (or 3mm, or ceramic even) apex seals -- stay away, because you'll be under the hood of it for a while otherwise. stock FD's are prone to overheating also.

awesome cars, but not reliable until a GOOD -=[NON-MAZDA]=- rebuild.
...plus, you'll eventually want more space - ask how i know.

a totally FUN investment, definately not a WISE investment.
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Hey I'm Derek im getting a new car and i don't know which one to get really so yeah...someone try and help me out here, my options are...
1995 Mazda RX-7
1997-2000 Ford Mustang GT
1997-2000 Ford Mustang Cobra
1995-1999 Mitsubishi 3000gt VR-4
1995-2002 Pontiac Trans Am
1994-1996 Nissan 300zx turbo
1993-2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 or SS
That's what i've got so far so tell me what you think cuz i don't which one is better than what seeing as i've never driven anything but the mustang gt, thanks

I bet your not getting anyone
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Old 26 Sep 2004, 03:06 pm   #15 (permalink)
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get a old skool mustang son



SYKE mustangs suck get the camaro
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