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Old 12 Sep 2004, 05:19 pm   #16 (permalink)
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Haha yeah I know all of that. I know a little but I am not stupid enough to know that it will damage my engine and those other things you listed. I plan on getting a Miata or a 240sx. I have to get a job quick though.
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Old 12 Sep 2004, 05:22 pm   #17 (permalink)
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those are just some ideas

and remember the law will only catch you if you are being dangerous or in a place were there are people

you can always go to one of those courses that they hold to teach kids to drift...

or an old parking lot somewhere where nobody cares

you know all the places that dont exist lol

no im kidding im sure you can find a place


and i think a miata would probably be a good car to start with...
cheap, looks ok... look better with some modification like body kit...
cheap to modify (shocks, springs, sway bars,)
and if nothing else its cool to have a convertable when your not burnin rubber

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Old 12 Sep 2004, 05:45 pm   #18 (permalink)
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Yeah other people's safety is one of my main concerns. I plan to use the old San Francisco Giants parking lot. Otherwise I think my uncle will pay for me to go to Bon Durant's School of Racing.
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Old 12 Sep 2004, 06:54 pm   #19 (permalink)
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Actually in good drifting your understeering, lets you get on the throttle logner and much harder.

before you ***** ive seen ID one too many times just think about it for a moment:

An over steering car is just going to slide anyways, getting heavier on the gas will cuase it to slide more and the angle to increase- probably resulting in a spin out. So you need to be gentle on the gas.

Now with an understeering car, its goign to resist the slide. So you need ot get on the gas longer and harder to increase the angle properly.

As for it being hard on the engine, brakes, and lsd- So is normal racing... so i wouldnt really compare- it IS overly hard on your chassis and your tires obviously (your making them slip and smoke as much as you can)

The chassis thing, well going through a turn sideways isnt somethign a chassis was sdesigned for- puts a lot of stress on it. A roll cage, or strut stiffeners at the very least are reccomended. Alogn with strengthening the the add a "rigid" feeling to it- this makes increases the feed back felt by the driver.. thats a good thing (knowing what your car is doing is important- especialy when it comes to drifting).

As for starting to learn:

I agree with the others here- Find a big parkign lot (not legal but still easy) or hit the track when theyre doing a drift event.

Just learn how to get your car sideways- and get "comfortable" while doing it. freaking out when that back end comes out is not a good thing.

Anyways this is getting really lengthy- so if you want im me on AIM at R
reelancer900- just let me know its you from this forum. ill gladly help and technique/physic related questions you can think of. If you add me to ur list it will say im offline, but im just "hiding" so IM me anyways and i should get it (this offer is open to anyone- btw)

Good luck! ill post more if you (or anyone) asks any questions in here
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Old 03 Oct 2004, 03:23 am   #20 (permalink)
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just to add a few...

-ae86 sprinter
-200sx/300zx/350z...there all good but the most popular are the S13 180sx/silvia and S15
-all the skylines gtst's DR30-R34

and basically any turboes jap car is best.....
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Old 03 Oct 2004, 08:36 am   #21 (permalink)
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Sup? I am intrested in drifting and I hope to try drifting once I get my liscense and my car. Otherwise I was just wondering what were some of the first steps you guys took to become drifters?
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Old 03 Oct 2004, 06:53 pm   #23 (permalink)
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ok im not going to argue with the understear overstear thing anymore...
because there are different methods... and preferences...

any rear wheel drive car will work under the right conditions...

big parking lot or airstrip or whatever... anything big with blacktop...

no emediat modifications required for a new driver

but i would not try to drift at first... probably just practice line and learn the car. you will learn that the caracteristics of a rwd and ff (though not noticable durring regular driving) are very different near the edge... and if you ever crose the line, are increadably different... mastering one isnt always helpful in the other...

but after 6 months you should have a basic understanding for the car and you can begin the long exciting journy of learning and mastering the drift

i dont think anyone will argue that once you start you woulnt be able to resist it
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Old 04 Oct 2004, 05:40 am   #24 (permalink)
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I guess the best advice is to get your liscence first and learn to drive. We don't want to see you crashing or anything. Get used to driving normaly first, then when you are ready, like other said, parking lots.
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Old 04 Oct 2004, 07:59 pm   #25 (permalink)
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Dont worry about modding the car for now... Mine was much easier to drift before the coilovers and tires. Once you get those items, you will need to be at higher speed to pull off a drift. Not a good thing for a novice. A 240sx will almost drift by itself, accidentally just as it came from Nissan... Very easy to learn in. Find an empty lot and get a cone or plastic bucket or two. Try doing a donut around the cone until you can keep it at the same distance all around the cone. Then make the donut bigger and smaller just using the gas... once you can do this... then do figure 8's around 2 cones and then clover leaves around three cones. Now go do it on some curves...
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Oh and find several sets of spare rims and a good souce for old tires. We get ours from local dealerships. when they warranty tires on new cars for vibration or whatever... They just throw them out... some still have the little rubber thinggies on them!

They are usually only good for a night or two... Oh and make a friend who knows how to mount tires and has a tire machine... You will need it

Have a set of rims to drive on and 2 or 3 pairs for the rear that you can swap out to go drift...
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Old 05 Oct 2004, 08:35 am   #27 (permalink)
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One thing is beware your lsd might get hot if it does it can break or metal fusing from overheating.
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