RX8 beat Murcielago, 360 Modena & M3!!!!!

[Arutyun]

This car is the best i ever seen! And 1.3L rotary engine one of the most powerful in the world!! New Ford Mustang GT produsing only 65hp per 1 litter. Ferrari 360 Modena produsing 111hp per 1 litter. BMW M3 have 104 hp per litter. Lamborghini Gallardo- 100 horses per litter. Lamborghini Murcielago 93hp per litter. MAZDA RX8 produsing 149 horse powers per 1 litter!!!!!!! what u think about that!!!! If that engine was same size as Lamborghini Murcielago (6.2L) it will produse 923hp but Murcielago have only 580hp!!! THIS CAR IS THE BEST!!! Anybody know any car that can beat RX8 Hp per litter with out any upgrades?

[NoHook]

Originally Posted by Arutyun

This car is the best i ever seen! And 1.3L rotary engine one of the most powerful in the world!! New Ford Mustang GT produsing only 65hp per 1 litter. Ferrari 360 Modena produsing 111hp per 1 litter. BMW M3 have 104 hp per litter. Lamborghini Gallardo- 100 horses per litter. Lamborghini Murcielago 93hp per litter. MAZDA RX8 produsing 149 horse powers per 1 litter!!!!!!! what u think about that!!!! If that engine was same size as Lamborghini Murcielago (6.2L) it will produse 923hp but Murcielago have only 580hp!!! THIS CAR IS THE BEST!!! Anybody know any car that can beat RX8 Hp per litter with out any upgrades?

Hey, You are a ****ing Idiot and possibly the biggest ricer i have ever seen. I have got to tell my buddies about this lol. The rotary is not 1.3 liters lol.

[///AMG]

el oh el

[Sp3aK]

Actually NoHook, http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=RX8 -- "1.3-liter RENESIS 2-rotor rotary engine" -- It is 1.3L...

Also: http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/hand...modelYear=2004 which states... "This includes the 238 hp RENESIS engine,"

hmm...

For the complete specs: http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=RX8

I think that what Arutyun was doing was thinking mathematically...

And Arutyun, don't you think this is old news? The RX8 has been out for a while, and the technology has been out for a long time too, so do you think that if they could make a rotary engine that would take up the back end of a Lambo, they would, and have it crank out 1000 HP or something? 238hp is a considerable amount for the size of the car, but put that up against a Supra and see what's what.

[NoHook]

Originally Posted by Sp3aK

Actually NoHook, http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=RX8 -- "1.3-liter RENESIS 2-rotor rotary engine" -- It is 1.3L...

Also: http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/hand...modelYear=2004 which states... "This includes the 238 hp RENESIS engine,"

hmm...

For the complete specs: http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=RX8

I think that what Arutyun was doing was thinking mathematically...

And Arutyun, don't you think this is old news? The RX8 has been out for a while, and the technology has been out for a long time too, so do you think that if they could make a rotary engine that would take up the back end of a Lambo, they would, and have it crank out 1000 HP or something? 238hp is a considerable amount for the size of the car, but put that up against a Supra and see what's what.

they rate it at 1.3 liters but in actuallity it is more than that. Regardless of what you think the displacment is, the fact is the "measured' displacment is 1.3 liters. Both rotors (when fired) will only ignite 1.3 liters of mixture at any given time. Guess what Sherlock... the other face still has to wait its turn to produce power. It is true that the engine will consume 2.6 liter of air in "2" rotations of its eccentric shaft, there for it IS 2.6 liters. SWEET.... so since only 1/2 of a 03 cobra's pistons actually "fire" in one revolution, they have ~2.3 liters of displacement. They have 390 HP so that would be what? 169.5 HP per liter So face it your rotary sucks, the whole engine is 2.6 liters and just because the whole 2 rotors arent firing doesn't mean it is only 1.3 liters

[Sp3aK]

I never said I thought the RX8 was any great car. I think its ugly, the RX7 is much better looking. And read my last sentence.

I was just stating the information that Aru was most likely going based on. Like I said, if his mathematics were true then they could just make on big freakin rotary engine that would dominate everything.

The big limiting factor is the mechanics, and even though matehmatically the RX8 would pump out more HP per liter... it's still slower. I do side with you on this issue NoHook, even though Aru does in some strange way have his own points, I think they are a bit mis-guided and unknowledgable.

*EDIT - 5 minutes later*
I was taking a dump when I realized that, hell if we were going to go purely mathmatical about this, my stock Volvo has 114hp with a 2.3L non turbo engine, so thats basically 50hp per liter. The 700 series volvos with the same engine with the turbo run 160 horse power, so thats basically 70hp per liter. Hell lets just make one big Volvo engine and screw all of you! Cuz if we go with that math, 70hp into a 5.0L like in the mustang, would be 350hp! w00... stupid mustangs.... hah...

[NoHook]

Originally Posted by Sp3aK

I never said I thought the RX8 was any great car. I think its ugly, the RX7 is much better looking. And read my last sentence.

I was just stating the information that Aru was most likely going based on. Like I said, if his mathematics were true then they could just make on big freakin rotary engine that would dominate everything.

The big limiting factor is the mechanics, and even though matehmatically the RX8 would pump out more HP per liter... it's still slower. I do side with you on this issue NoHook, even though Aru does in some strange way have his own points, I think they are a bit mis-guided and unknowledgable.

*EDIT - 5 minutes later*
I was taking a dump when I realized that, hell if we were going to go purely mathmatical about this, my stock Volvo has 114hp with a 2.3L non turbo engine, so thats basically 50hp per liter. The 700 series volvos with the same engine with the turbo run 160 horse power, so thats basically 70hp per liter. Hell lets just make one big Volvo engine and screw all of you! Cuz if we go with that math, 70hp into a 5.0L like in the mustang, would be 350hp! w00... stupid mustangs.... hah...

haha. I know all about the rotaries and the main thing that makes the engine fail in them is the apex seals. But technically the motors are not 1.3 liters the 2 rotors are 2.6 and 3 rotor is 3.9 liters. Your volvo would make make 99 HP per liter going by the way the rotards do their liter math, they figure since only 1 section of the engine fires at once and that part of the engine is 1.3 liters they can call it a 1.3 liter motor lol. only half of your volvo or my V8 fires at once but we don't say your volvo is 1.15 liters and my V8 which is Really 5.8 liters 2.6 liters. We measure the whole liter size of the entire engine and they only measure what fires at once . The ****in motor is 2.6 liters if it is a 2 rotor and it is 3.9 liters if it is a 3 rotor. So rotary guys do not have a HP per liter argument they think they have. Thank you for agreeing with me

[nighthound]

any rx-7 people care to join in?

*edit*
rotary people in general

[Sp3aK]

Yeah I was talking to my dad tonight, and he is a mechanic, and has been for like, 19+ years. He explained to me about rotary engines more, thought i really can't remember what exactly he said, it goes right along with what you say and that the rotary people(engineers) are just kinda way off when they figure in the liters for the rotary. They can call it what they want, but I still pick cubic inches and cylinders over the f*d up math of a rotary engine.

[NoHook]

Originally Posted by Sp3aK

Yeah I was talking to my dad tonight, and he is a mechanic, and has been for like, 19+ years. He explained to me about rotary engines more, thought i really can't remember what exactly he said, it goes right along with what you say and that the rotary people(engineers) are just kinda way off when they figure in the liters for the rotary. They can call it what they want, but I still pick cubic inches and cylinders over the f*d up math of a rotary engine.

We have no replies because i am right, we heard it from a 19+ year mechanic . I know a lot about cars then people think I do, I may be a domestic person but I know a few things about imports. I am only 18 and still have a lot to learn though

[Sp3aK]

Yeah unfortunately I'm not following in my dads footsteps like I should have. For the past couple years I've been more and more interested in cars and what not. Tremek.com is helping though

It's hard owning an old, ugly, sweedish car and trying to get into the racing scene, lol! But hey with the turbo I should be able to get about 160~hp, lol.... yay.... lol.

And yeah you are right, this thread should be locked or something.

[American Psycho]

how many liters is a 302 Mustang 87-93

[NoHook]

Originally Posted by shaggy

how many liters is a 302 Mustang 87-93

they are 5.0 liters but in Rotard math they are 2.5 liters and make 110.4 HP per liter Bwahahahaha

[A|pine]

Originally Posted by NoHook

haha. I know all about the rotaries and the main thing that makes the engine fail in them is the apex seals. But technically the motors are not 1.3 liters the 2 rotors are 2.6 and 3 rotor is 3.9 liters. Your volvo would make make 99 HP per liter going by the way the rotards do their liter math, they figure since only 1 section of the engine fires at once and that part of the engine is 1.3 liters they can call it a 1.3 liter motor lol. only half of your volvo or my V8 fires at once but we don't say your volvo is 1.15 liters and my V8 which is Really 5.8 liters 2.6 liters. We measure the whole liter size of the entire engine and they only measure what fires at once . The ****in motor is 2.6 liters if it is a 2 rotor and it is 3.9 liters if it is a 3 rotor. So rotary guys do not have a HP per liter argument they think they have. Thank you for agreeing with me

damn ur pretty smart for an 18 yr old .
BTW thx for the info!

[NoHook]

Originally Posted by A|pine

damn ur pretty smart for an 18 yr old .
BTW thx for the info!

No problem I am happy to contribute to solving any HP/Liter myths there maybe and I am also happy to join any Domestic VS Import discussion if you need me . Remember guys there is no replacement for displacement and sure there are turbos and superchargers but we can use those too