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30 Dec 2004, 08:26 am
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Wow old post. So explain why the 3 rotor has to run with the 4 liter crowd? Because it is 3.9 liters
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31 Dec 2004, 02:40 am
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Damn, what the hell is rotard math?! It sounds pretty difficult, lol. Haven't you guys seen Back 2 the Future? The DeLorean runs off of garbage and is so fast it can time-travel and leave flaming tire marks!! Now that's fast, that thing is probably 34534hp per liter, if my rotard calculations are correct.....I wish this thread would go 88mph and disappear.
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31 Dec 2004, 02:43 am
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08 Jan 2005, 03:29 pm
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Oh my god not again. U domestic guys need a lesson in rotary engines. If u want to call it a 2.6 or whatever thats fine, just so u have an excuse when u lose. the rotary cant be compared to piston motors thats why they are 1.3L. And the 3-rotor is 2.0L, it doesnt have to race the 4.0 crowd. The 1.3 can handle it just fine. Now u wanna talk a real motor try the 2.6L 4-rotor built by either Mazda or Scoot.
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08 Jan 2005, 03:47 pm
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you know what would be better, go race around a rotary with ur rotary powered car. omg you would look so cool all the chicks would be makkin u dawg....... o wait ive got a better idea go as fast as u can in on a straight road and crash head on into this thread killing it and your self.
Some dude: What u runnin under there? You: a Scoot! Some Dude: Your gay You: No im not i have real power. Some Dude: you still gay I would not want to respond in this matter. better yet i would never want to have a scoot engine
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08 Jan 2005, 05:09 pm
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Well that just proves u have no idea what ur talking about. Its ok dont worry u got a honda, you'll like the view behind me. And most people in the states dont even know who or what Scoot is.
Why say u dont wanna respond, but yet u do.....hhhmmmm....dumbass maybe?
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08 Jan 2005, 06:32 pm
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03 Feb 2005, 01:04 am
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Hmmmmmmm.... View behind me  Gay ????? .......VERY.
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03 Feb 2005, 02:55 am
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My opinion is that the only way you can properly measure or compare the HP/liter figures is to measure the Cubic capacity of the engine, be it a rotary or piston (2/4 stroke), is by measuring the total capacity that actualy produced the HP. Because it takes all rotors/pistons to go through thier power phase (when they actualy produce the power) to make the total power output of the engine instead of measuring what phase the rotary (in terms of Deg. of flywheel rotation) is in when the Piston engine has completed all its phases (4 for 4 strokes/2 for 2 strokes) which is how Mazda publizes the 1.3 Ltr figure with the the full dispalcement HP.
The reason HP/Liter figure is important, is that this can be used to measure the efficiancy of the engine. So an other way to measure the efficiancy in VERY general Terms is as follows: The average loss of power from heat (TE) (not from friction) is 33% The average loss of power from Frictions & inirtial (FI) losses is also 33% (piston, not sure how much but alot less for rotary) Average loss of power from Volumetric efficiancy (VE) can reach 10% Thus what is felt at the fly wheel is only aroun 24% of the the actual energy that is put in to the engine..... BUT. Most Piston engines are run richer (as compared to a perfect stoechio metric mixture of Oxygen to gasoline) to cut down on the heat, that decreases the volumetric efficiancy cuz less space is going to be used to inhale air, and less fuel will be burned, but the engine will lose from the 10%(VE) and not the 33%(TE) and thus make more power. Because we can run the engine cooler, we can up the compression, that will increase the VE, and also increase power, but the FI losses might suffer a but, and this is where the Rotary can play its game, cuz thats where the rotary can up the compression and maintain the same (originaly less than the piston) FI losses, and make more power. An other way rotarys make more power is that because thier FI loses are less, they can rev more.... Which means more power. (Read Sig). Only inefficiency of rotary's is thier average Torque and HP Figure or Torque & HP spread. power only comes up high in the RPM band.
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03 Feb 2005, 08:59 am
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why are people still posting in this thread? no one will change what they think so all of this scientific posts and 'rotard' math (whatever the hell that is) is pointless.
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03 Feb 2005, 10:33 am
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This is a funny thread.
Like someone else previously stated, the rotary is in actuality 1.3 liters, but operates as a 2.6 liter in some aspects. People that think of a rotary as a 2 stroke engine should really do their homework, because it is definitly a 4 stroke engine. Definition of 4 stoke: Stroke 1, Intake Stroke 2, Compression Stroke 3, Combustion Stroke 4, Exhaust Definition of 2 Stroke Stroke 1, Intake & Compression Stroke 2, Combustion & Exhaust The rotary is definitly a 4 stoke, with 4 seperate strokes in its combusion event. Also, even if it were 2 stroke, the displacement of 1.3 liters still holds. When you go out and look at 2 stroke motorcycles, say 250cc's, 250cc's is 250cc's. Its not 250cc's in 2 stroke terms and 500cc's in 4 stroke terms at the same time! Where people get confused is that for each rotor there is a combustion event on each revolution of the eccentric shaft (crankshaft). So it is firing like a 4 cylinder. Basically what it comes down to is people don't know what to say when they lose to a car with much less displacement than there own. Look at all the excuses people with v8's have come up with when they lose to a honda or rotary powered car.
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