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Remirez · 07 Dec 2007, 01:55 pm

Toivonen's mastery of the stage in a Talbot Sunbeam

01mmmz28 · 07 Dec 2007, 02:03 pm

damn, I don't see how that co-pilot reads the notes when he's getting bounced all over the place, I'd be a puking fool trying to read while going through that type of distortion. I love to watch rally racing, but it does not get good coverage IMO. Also, why do the spectators and camera men stand so close to curves when they know damn well what can happen? death wishes maybe??lol

Nortad · 08 Dec 2007, 03:33 am

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Originally Posted by 01mmmz28

damn, I don't see how that co-pilot reads the notes when he's getting bounced all over the place, I'd be a puking fool trying to read while going through that type of distortion. I love to watch rally racing, but it does not get good coverage IMO. Also, why do the spectators and camera men stand so close to curves when they know damn well what can happen? death wishes maybe??lol

That co-pilot, is Ferrari boss Jean Todt

Remirez · 08 Dec 2007, 11:21 am

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Originally Posted by 01mmmz28

damn, I don't see how that co-pilot reads the notes when he's getting bounced all over the place, I'd be a puking fool trying to read while going through that type of distortion. I love to watch rally racing, but it does not get good coverage IMO. Also, why do the spectators and camera men stand so close to curves when they know damn well what can happen? death wishes maybe??lol

Rallying does actually get decent coverage, just not in the United States. Unless you look it up on the internet, might never even know that the US has several championships on going. The only rallying that gets proper coverage in the states is a little at the X-games.
But I'll tell you what, watching it on telly is absolutely nothing like watching it in real life. You gotta look for a rally close to where you live and just go and watch it. Then maybe you'll understand why people want to be so close to the cars.
With the WRC cars, you can feel the heat coming off of them. They shake the ground you stand on. You get splattered by the mud and dust. You get amazing photographs and video.
In truth, standing on the outside of a corner is pretty stupid. The inside of the corner is a little safer, but not necessarily. Safety regulations have become alot more stringent since the 80's when this video was made. Spectator sections are heavily regulated with marshalls everywhere.
There is also just a certain amount of trust you must have in the driver's ability not to crash.

Nortad · 10 Dec 2007, 01:58 am

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Originally Posted by Remirez

Rallying does actually get decent coverage, just not in the United States. Unless you look it up on the internet, might never even know that the US has several championships on going. The only rallying that gets proper coverage in the states is a little at the X-games.
But I'll tell you what, watching it on telly is absolutely nothing like watching it in real life. You gotta look for a rally close to where you live and just go and watch it. Then maybe you'll understand why people want to be so close to the cars.
With the WRC cars, you can feel the heat coming off of them. They shake the ground you stand on. You get splattered by the mud and dust. You get amazing photographs and video.
In truth, standing on the outside of a corner is pretty stupid. The inside of the corner is a little safer, but not necessarily. Safety regulations have become alot more stringent since the 80's when this video was made. Spectator sections are heavily regulated with marshalls everywhere.
There is also just a certain amount of trust you must have in the driver's ability not to crash.

that was bang on

Watch a rally stage up close and you´ll be hooked for life. and BTW the FIA is considering bringing back WRC to the States soon, so keep your eyes open for news

01mmmz28 · 10 Dec 2007, 05:55 am

I watch whenever the SPEED channel has it on, which is rare. I see what you are saying about standing to get good pics and to feel the cars themselves as they pass, but I enjoy my life and have a decent camara.....Zoom in FTW. No way you will catch me standing anywhere near that shit.

Headracer · 10 Dec 2007, 02:32 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGIiarIrUCI

Now those were some crazy spectators... Especially considering that group B cars had this annoying tendency of being too fast for even the best drivers to handle. Spectators back in the 80's must have had a deathwish.

Remirez · 10 Dec 2007, 03:10 pm

crazy driving. Good footage. crazy spectators

Too bad its been posted a million times.

Headracer · 10 Dec 2007, 03:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Remirez

crazy driving. Good footage. crazy spectators

Too bad its been posted a million times.

True... Thought it was relevant, and there's a reason I didn't post it in a new thread.

Remirez · 10 Dec 2007, 07:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Headracer

True... Thought it was relevant, and there's a reason I didn't post it in a new thread.

ooooook. I suppooooose I can forgive you just this once. hehe.
I'm not the police or admin. I just like being anal sometimes.

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01mmmz28 Obsessed Tremekian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On a national search to find burgh a dentist that will work on baboon teeth. Posts: 5,029 01mmmz28's Gallery	Re: Henri Toivonen Talbot Sunbeam I watch whenever the SPEED channel has it on, which is rare. I see what you are saying about standing to get good pics and to feel the cars themselves as they pass, but I enjoy my life and have a decent camara.....Zoom in FTW. No way you will catch me standing anywhere near that shit. __________________ 2001 Z/28 LS1. Texas speed cam 231/237 598/595 112 lsa, .660 lift springs,7.4 hardened pushrods, lid, LT headers,TSP X pipe,Texas speed "true duels",Richmond 4.10 gears, stud kit, Thunder racing girdle cover, Spec stg 3+ clutch, ARP rod bolts, clevite main and rod bearings, 25% underdrive pulley, SLP 85mm MAF,black ZR1 rims 315/35/17 Nitto DR's, BMR subframes, BMR LCA's, Edelbrock TQ Arm, BMR pan hard bar. LS2 timing chain and gear set, LS6 ported oil pump.... Tuned by R.P.M. Performance. All labor done my ME and a few good friends !!!!

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Headracer Young Noob Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Posts: 76 Headracer's Gallery	Re: Henri Toivonen Talbot Sunbeam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGIiarIrUCI Now those were some crazy spectators... Especially considering that group B cars had this annoying tendency of being too fast for even the best drivers to handle. Spectators back in the 80's must have had a deathwish. __________________ Cars: Subaru Outback (the showroom stock rallycrosser) '08 VW GTI DSG (APR Chipped, reprogrammed electronic differential lock, Brembo brakes) On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high. -Ayrton Senna

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Remirez Senior Tremekian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In my chair, in front of my computer Posts: 1,291 Remirez's Gallery	Re: Henri Toivonen Talbot Sunbeam crazy driving. Good footage. crazy spectators Too bad its been posted a million times. __________________ But without adventure the finest opportunities of risk, discovery and even solitude could never be ours, and life would be reduced to a dead level of safety, knowledge, and society. - Henry W. Nevison

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