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1990HondaHatch · 17 Feb 2005, 10:12 pm

i have a 1992 honda civic hatch i had ls vtec in it with 208hp and i took it out and put a b20 with my vtec head on it ...it dyno at 257hp..my goal is to beat a 2005 mustang cobra so i put a supercharger on it so i could really make one look bad it dyno at 423wheel hp ...but now after beating one ..video comming soon

but i was wondering to get better traction what can i do ...without putting slicks on it?

68 Vette · 17 Feb 2005, 10:28 pm

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Originally Posted by 1990HondaHatch

i have a 1992 honda civic hatch i had ls vtec in it with 208hp and i took it out and put a b20 with my vtec head on it ...it dyno at 257hp..my goal is to beat a 2005 mustang cobra so i put a supercharger on it so i could really make one look bad it dyno at 423wheel hp ...but now after beating one ..video comming soon

but i was wondering to get better traction what can i do ...without putting slicks on it?

I wanna see that Dyno sheet, it would make a good point in one of my posts. But any way what size wheels do you have on your car right now and what kind of tires are you rolling on (lol)

0zAr3 · 18 Feb 2005, 10:47 am

If you need better traction put some slicks on that beast. And i agree I need to see the Dyno sheet to belive.

Chris-B · 18 Feb 2005, 11:10 am

you got an lsd?

Haakon · 18 Feb 2005, 12:52 pm

I dont belive it before i see it.A 166 hp gain from only a supercharger is ALOT on a small honda engine,and if your engine realy is making 257 you would realy have to have some high compression pistons,and high compression pistons aint a good option with a sc/turbo!But maybee your right.

68 Vette · 18 Feb 2005, 12:55 pm

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Originally Posted by 88modell

I dont belive it before i see it.A 166 hp gain from only a supercharger is ALOT on a small honda engine,and if your engine realy is making 257 you would realy have to have some high compression pistons,and high compression pistons aint a good option with a sc/turbo!But maybee your right.

But its always a good option in the imagination, where these dyno numbers where made

jdmlude2000 · 18 Feb 2005, 02:17 pm

ehhh it could happen those b blocks can hold quite a bit of pressure but i wouldnt wanna run around in a car with s/c with that much..... my rule is if ur inline 4 cant make 200 hp at the wheels iwth out s/c it doesnt need one ...what you need is a new motor...

i'd recommend doing a frankenstein and taking a b18 block with a h22 head. turbo it and u'll kick a mustangs ass

Sick srt-4 · 18 Feb 2005, 10:04 pm

As with ANY FWD car, traction is always a give and take on how streetable you want the car.

The BEST traction you can get will be via lowering the front of car, and preloading and restricting front wheel up and down travel... IE Bottom out your struts, and chain them down. giving them alot of preload and very little travel.

Then preload the rear without lowering to keep it from squatting durring launch.

Best results will be on slicks.

low_civic · 19 Feb 2005, 07:36 am

i would liek to know one thing....

400HP and how much Torque? cuz to smoke a mustang you don't need ponys you need torque and thats something honda engines lack...

if you want a good mix that has good torque and HP go with the CRV block and a gsr head then you put a turbo and boom also slap in a LSD and drop suspension strut bars and stabalizer bars and your car will be great...anything else you want to do to the engine go for it...it will give you the best of both worlds torque and hp and its not that heavy of an engine so not so bad...

but for traction problems best bet would be go look for race tires (they ware fast) very very fast but they will give you some traction, slicks also but most slicks are not street legal...other then that i would say don't put the petal to the floor when launching lol even if you don't have him on the take off you will have him the rest of the way

jdmlude2000 · 19 Feb 2005, 02:35 pm

stop being smarter about a car i've never owned...... heh

i never really thught about using a crv block ..... but i still like the idea of a b18 with a h22 head :0

low_civic · 20 Feb 2005, 05:06 am

lol jdmlude its a good mix but the crv block will give you 135 Torque while the b18 will only give you about 110...

jdmlude2000 · 20 Feb 2005, 01:00 pm

but he's not looking for tq just hp it seems

NemoGT · 21 Feb 2005, 08:21 am

OK i just registered to post up that there is no 05 cobra and i think this kid is bull shittin im sorry but thats just the way i feel.

NemoGT · 21 Feb 2005, 08:23 am

And as far as i know superchargers wont add much of a gain unless the car is heavily modified "smaller cars" i would guess about a 50-65 hp increase on his if it were true and torque range would probably be in the mid 200's

NemoGT · 21 Feb 2005, 08:26 am

and on torque i meant hed have that total

17 Feb 2005, 10:12 pm	#1 (permalink)
1990HondaHatch Fresh Noob Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9 1990HondaHatch's Gallery	1992 hatch i have a 1992 honda civic hatch i had ls vtec in it with 208hp and i took it out and put a b20 with my vtec head on it ...it dyno at 257hp..my goal is to beat a 2005 mustang cobra so i put a supercharger on it so i could really make one look bad it dyno at 423wheel hp ...but now after beating one ..video comming soon but i was wondering to get better traction what can i do ...without putting slicks on it?

18 Feb 2005, 10:47 am	#3 (permalink)
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18 Feb 2005, 12:52 pm	#5 (permalink)
Haakon XXX Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: norway Posts: 2,340 Haakon's Gallery	I dont belive it before i see it.A 166 hp gain from only a supercharger is ALOT on a small honda engine,and if your engine realy is making 257 you would realy have to have some high compression pistons,and high compression pistons aint a good option with a sc/turbo!But maybee your right. __________________ 1st and only member of igloo racing team "Better to be first in hell then second to heaven"

19 Feb 2005, 07:36 am	#9 (permalink)
low_civic God Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: in the corner Posts: 18,050 low_civic's Gallery	i would liek to know one thing.... 400HP and how much Torque? cuz to smoke a mustang you don't need ponys you need torque and thats something honda engines lack... if you want a good mix that has good torque and HP go with the CRV block and a gsr head then you put a turbo and boom also slap in a LSD and drop suspension strut bars and stabalizer bars and your car will be great...anything else you want to do to the engine go for it...it will give you the best of both worlds torque and hp and its not that heavy of an engine so not so bad... but for traction problems best bet would be go look for race tires (they ware fast) very very fast but they will give you some traction, slicks also but most slicks are not street legal...other then that i would say don't put the petal to the floor when launching lol even if you don't have him on the take off you will have him the rest of the way __________________ 2nd Member of the "KEEP IT TO THE STREETS FOUNDATION"

20 Feb 2005, 05:06 am	#11 (permalink)
low_civic God Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: in the corner Posts: 18,050 low_civic's Gallery	lol jdmlude its a good mix but the crv block will give you 135 Torque while the b18 will only give you about 110... __________________ 2nd Member of the "KEEP IT TO THE STREETS FOUNDATION"

18 Feb 2005, 11:10 am	#4 (permalink)
Chris-B Regular Tremekian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: uk Posts: 170 Chris-B's Gallery	you got an lsd?

18 Feb 2005, 10:04 pm	#8 (permalink)
Sick srt-4 Regular Tremekian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sillicon Valley Posts: 167 Sick srt-4's Gallery	As with ANY FWD car, traction is always a give and take on how streetable you want the car. The BEST traction you can get will be via lowering the front of car, and preloading and restricting front wheel up and down travel... IE Bottom out your struts, and chain them down. giving them alot of preload and very little travel. Then preload the rear without lowering to keep it from squatting durring launch. Best results will be on slicks.

21 Feb 2005, 08:21 am	#13 (permalink)
NemoGT Fresh Noob Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 43 NemoGT's Gallery	OK i just registered to post up that there is no 05 cobra and i think this kid is bull shittin im sorry but thats just the way i feel.

21 Feb 2005, 08:23 am	#14 (permalink)
NemoGT Fresh Noob Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 43 NemoGT's Gallery	And as far as i know superchargers wont add much of a gain unless the car is heavily modified "smaller cars" i would guess about a 50-65 hp increase on his if it were true and torque range would probably be in the mid 200's

21 Feb 2005, 08:26 am	#15 (permalink)
NemoGT Fresh Noob Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 43 NemoGT's Gallery	and on torque i meant hed have that total

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