Nissan R35 GTR runs 11.67

[R1KID]

Originally Posted by GTRJack

^^ haha I never said GT-R is greater then Vette, it is YOU who said the Vette is greater then the GT-R. Back in the 2005 Nissan never offered anything in the performance brand to compete with the Vette during the time and the Skyline GTR ceased the production long before already in 2002, what's your point? The problem is that you failed to see that the new GT-R and the ZR1 are two totally different class. I don't see automotive mags comparing Carrera GT with BMW M3, do they?

"I never said GTR > Vette" I beg to differ, YOU are the one who compared the GTR as a base model with the C6 as a base model, in reality there is no base or top model for the GTR, it's simply a GTR so by saying "it's just a base GTR" is redundant, "back in 2005 Nissan had nothing" exactly, so my point is simply an answer to your question "how was the C6 base as a car before ZO6 or ZR1?" much more than what Nissan was, "you fail to see GTR and ZR1 are different class" I definitely don't have that problem, nevermind the GTR and ZR1 are not the same ball game, it's not even in the same f*cking stadium, when I said "the GTR aint no ZR1 but atleast they're trying" I was simply trying to give Nissan some props not saying they're in the same class kind of like complimenting a decent looking girl "she aint no Cindy Crawford but she could still suck ****".

[EVILZ33]

nissan has already made a car that can compete with the zr1 the nissan gt-r Z-tune and they made it about 2 or 3 years ago so i guess a little old technoligy aint bad

[BOTLFEDLT1]

The Z-tune was hardly what could be considered a production car with only 19 z-tunes in existance, including the 2 prototypes. You look at almost any racing series and you need to have a production run of more than 100 to qualify as a production car. Second, the limited production numbers drove up prices to as high as 180K USD. So no, I dont think Nissan really had a comparable car to the ZR1 which is nearly half the price (and I question whether it could even beat a C6Z06 at the ring) 2 or 3 years ago.

The R35 is shaping up to be a solid entry in the sports car world. Like R1 said.. props where props are due. Its better than anything coming out of honda/toyota/mazda.

Originally Posted by EVILZ33

nissan has already made a car that can compete with the zr1 the nissan gt-r Z-tune and they made it about 2 or 3 years ago so i guess a little old technoligy aint bad

[UKunt]

isnt this one of the first cars to come out of japan with over 300bhp.due to that dealer hand shake thing???? maybe this will mean bigger HP cars will be coming out of japan now? its not as if they cant make them. now if they make them is another thing.

AND MAYBE THERE CAN BE A THREAD WITHOUT GM NUNHUGGERS GOING ON ABOUT THE ZR-1..ITS NOT LIKE IT WILL BE THE FASTEST CAR OUT THERE ANYWAY.

[97talon]

Let the nuthuggers go. They are finally happy that after 53 years of development chevy made something that can actually go fast.

[BOTLFEDLT1]

First of all, the "gentleman" agreement had nothing to do with making cars with a certain amount of hp (the agreement was actually 280), it was just an agreement not to advertise their cars with more than 280 hp. Case in point was the MKIV supra. No tuning changes between JDM vs USDM version... only difference is that our got advertised at 320 hp. So the japs have been making >300 hp cars since the early 90's... just not advertising them as such in their home market.

With emissions laws that are growing more strict by the day, the era of 500+ hp cars are pretty numbered for all car makers... but particularly for japanese due to the type of engine design they typically favour (i.e. smaller displacement, high specific output). Its just plain harder to get a smaller motor to meet emissions standards at these levels.

Originally Posted by UKunt

isnt this one of the first cars to come out of japan with over 300bhp.due to that dealer hand shake thing???? maybe this will mean bigger HP cars will be coming out of japan now? its not as if they cant make them. now if they make them is another thing.

[STIvsSVT]

I don't know why GM even enters into the conversation.

The car did 11.67 @ 111 mph, that is that. End of story. When one does better, get the vid and show us.

Nice mid 11 second time just the same, but its not a 10 second car till someone runs 10 seconds.

[UKunt]

Originally Posted by BOTLFEDLT1

First of all, the "gentleman" agreement had nothing to do with making cars with a certain amount of hp (the agreement was actually 280), it was just an agreement not to advertise their cars with more than 280 hp. Case in point was the MKIV supra. No tuning changes between JDM vs USDM version... only difference is that our got advertised at 320 hp. So the japs have been making >300 hp cars since the early 90's... just not advertising them as such in their home market.

With emissions laws that are growing more strict by the day, the era of 500+ hp cars are pretty numbered for all car makers... but particularly for japanese due to the type of engine design they typically favour (i.e. smaller displacement, high specific output). Its just plain harder to get a smaller motor to meet emissions standards at these levels.

hmm why would they agree to not advertise them as more then 280 and only make them 20bhp or so more....when the supra and skyline engines can handle 500-600bhp stock? they know what the engines limits are and could easy push them out to more power.im sure it has more to do with the advertise thing..not that they couldnt do it.

[BOTLFEDLT1]

Originally Posted by UKunt

hmm why would they agree to not advertise them as more then 280 and only make them 20bhp or so more....when the supra and skyline engines can handle 500-600bhp stock? they know what the engines limits are and could easy push them out to more power.im sure it has more to do with the advertise thing..not that they couldnt do it.

I never said they couldnt do it... Sometimes self regulation is better for the industry as a whole. I.e. they agree not to start a hp war, and they avoid too much scrutiny from the government, insurance or safety advocacy groups. The same thing happened with the jap motorcycle industry when they voluntarily capped top speed on the busa/zx-12r.

[Memphis]

Originally Posted by EVILZ33

nissan has already made a car that can compete with the zr1 the nissan gt-r Z-tune and they made it about 2 or 3 years ago so i guess a little old technoligy aint bad

The Z Tune is similar to a Yenko, not a production car. Shit they weren't even new they were built off of a used year old car.

[UKunt]

yer i guess so. with them only having a 111 mph speed limit. is there much point of having all that power either..a few of my friends have had JDM motor bikes and they all have come with a 111mph limiter on them also the same with JDM cars.

[BOTLFEDLT1]

Originally Posted by UKunt

yer i guess so. with them only having a 111 mph speed limit. is there much point of having all that power either..a few of my friends have had JDM motor bikes and they all have come with a 111mph limiter on them also the same with JDM cars.

111mph limit on a bike? what is that.. top of 3rd gear? that is gay..

[UKunt]

yep. its the same with a mates old JDM skyline with the speed limiter still on.not even half way in 4th and the limiter kicks in @ 180kph-111mph. it was good laugh saying how a 100bhp car could beat it even when it had 400bhp.

[01mmmz28]

Originally Posted by 97talon

Let the nuthuggers go. They are finally happy that after 53 years of development chevy made something that can actually go fast.

LOL look who's talking. like dodge has anything to brag about. They may have a few cars w/ 425 hp, yet they still run 13's due to the fact that they weigh 4000+ lbs. The only slight ray of hope they have is the new challenger, which will still be porky and under perform just like a typical dodge. don't even mention the viper as its new found power still runs even w/ a current Zo6.

[EVILZ33]

Originally Posted by Memphis

The Z Tune is similar to a Yenko, not a production car. Shit they weren't even new they were built off of a used year old car.

yenkos phuckin rock tho id take 1 yenko over 5 zr1's plus the zr1 is hardly a production car too only 2k made ca mon