new gt-r puts down 482 whp stock

[sweet89s13]

/\ you have a very good point, i guess all the bullshitting will have to wait till the zr1 comes out and there is a shootout.
-with the exige/elise you are still talking a mr platform, like the 911. 2wd but with weight over the power wheels

[UKunt]

well its stupid putting it in the same league as a 620bhp car.

[bmxer99]

Originally Posted by sweet89s13

this is true./\ the zr1 or even a zo6 would be fun as shit to get behind the wheel and drive (or try to drive) on a daily basis. leave it to us americans for raw horsepower and torque. (IMO make FUN cars to drive).

Ill still stick to the GTR, yea power to weight is USUALLY the deciding factor, but you are testing AWD against a FR platform, and unless you get more weight over the rear wheels, IE. MR platforms, im just saying the ZR1 is going to have a hard time putting over 500whp to the ground.

whoa dude... so your sayinh there is a 120hp loss from the crank to the tires?? not smart..

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[sweet89s13]

ughhh read pg4 towards the bottom, not questioning output by any means read through the statement and im stating power to the ground not output power.

[R1KID]

Go f*ck yourself Burgh, you ban me and shit talk while I can't respond, you f*cking pussy, sometimes I wonder why I even bother with you, you drive an 18 second car for f*ck sakes, talking to you about fast cars is like talking to a virgin about f*cking.

[UKunt]

haha thats called being OWNED lil man. if u dont talk shit in the first place u wont get banned.i can own u all the time if u keep coming on the site..take a hint.

oh i do love u bumper sticker humour.one day u will have some humour lil fella.

oh and its probly slower then 18 sec at the moment as im saving to buy a car without getting a loan..

take note from R1KID ppl if u dont own a 10 sec car.dont talk about cars..

[STIvsSVT]

Originally Posted by sweet89s13

... AND I do think the ZR-1 wont stand a chance on the ring with the gtr. power is nothing if you can't put it to the ground. There is enough problems with z06's staying on the road as it is with 505bhp.

I don't think you'll need the ZR1 to do it, I'm willing to bet that when they test the actual "out of the dealership" box stock Nissan, the FULL Ring time won't match the regular Z06.

[UKunt]

yer i think it would be hard pushed to even beat the c6 zo6 time....its a waiting game at the moment.

[BOTLFEDLT1]

Originally Posted by sweet89s13

with the exige/elise you are still talking a mr platform, like the 911. 2wd but with weight over the power wheels

which is why i brought up the example of MB SLR vs veyron to illustrate that lower weight can make up for awd even with a front engine/rear drive layout on the track. There are plenty of high powered rwd cars that manage to put the power down to the ground...

fyi - 911 is not a a mr platform.. the engine is situated BEHIND the rear axle, which is theoretically an inferior layout for handling. Years of evolution have managed to get this set up to work. You have to look beyond theory and to execution before assuming blanket statements about engine layouts and handling capabilities.