3000gt v vr4 Vs. 07 mustang gt

[ford_racer]

Originally Posted by HKSevo

ford88 is the only non-brainwashed ford owner


ford_racer, u are another blk_mustangGt or what ever that guy name is, he pisses me off more tho from his ignorance but now u acting like him...jeeeshss

How am I brainwashed? Because I stated factual observations about 03 Cobras running mid 12s. Did I ever say the modular motors or the 5.0 was touched by the hand of God, like some of you people think the LSx was?

No. I did not. I said it's equal with the LSx series motors. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. Had I been brainwashed like you say I am, I would not be looking for an LS1 to replace my 98 GT.

I may have been a little optimistic about the S197 GTs, but I've seen timeslips of more than one going 12s stock. I concede I was wrong on the STis and Evos. I guess I heard wrong or something on those.

However the facts are:

03/04 Cobras WILL run mid 12s bonestock

They will handle over 800 rwhp and some have seen 1000rwhp, but I would go built about 700 thanks to the horrible ring to piston wall clearance Ford gave them.

LS1s are great motors, but have yet to see any making upwards of 600 on stock internals. The rods WILL NOT take it.

[Ford88]

Originally Posted by Soup

I think we may have a conversion taking place, nobody tell ford88 they made vert camaros or he'll have to change his username.

Nah dude, I don't like the feel of them sitting in em. I've driven them, I won't be changing my username lol. Also don't really like the way they look, hardtop or softtop.

Also, I don't really give a rats ass if I'm slower, I guarantee I love my car more than you.

[mehrshad]

Originally Posted by ford_racer

Boost is a replacement for displacement.

The discplacement of a motor is measured in the amount of air it can hold when running at 100% volumetric efficiency (which they rarely do).

Boost is adding more air to that motor, therefore increasing the amount of air it's holding.

Since 14.7 is atmospheric pressure, if you add 14.7 psi to a 2.0l motor, you end up with a theoretical 4 liters. Get it?

And if we're going to rule out forced induction, I spose we have to rule out the LS9, right?

you are totaly wrong . it's not just 14.7 psi. the turbo size compresion ratio and alot more thing plays big game.

[HKSevo]

Originally Posted by ford_racer

How am I brainwashed? Because I stated factual observations about 03 Cobras running mid like shit. Did I ever say the modular motors or the 5.0 was touched by the hand of God, like some of you people think the LSx was?

No. I did not. I said it's equal with the LSx series motors. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. Had I been smart like you say I am, I would be looking for an LS1 to replace my 98 GT.

I may have been a little optimistic about the S197 GTs, but I've seen timeslips of more than one going 12s stock. I concede I was wrong on the STis and Evos. I guess I heard wrong or something on those.

However the facts are:

LS1s are great motors, The rods WILL take it.

how the fawk are u going to say Ellis Juan was not touched by God himself when he designed it for is batmobile?


fixed your post btw

[ford_racer]

Originally Posted by 97talon

Find a vid of a bone stock cobra please. That's what I want to see. The vid the guy posted was modded. That's all I want to see.

On a side note, that Bimmer moved!

BTW, STFU.

[Traction Issuez]

camaros look like shit............. anything after 81 that is.

[Ford88]

Originally Posted by Traction Issuez

camaros look like shit............. anything after 81 that is.

X2...

[Soup]

Originally Posted by Ford88

Also, I don't really give a rats ass if I'm slower, I guarantee I love my car more than you.

I think about my cars during sex, and not in the way you think about baseball or the shit from rotten.com to keep yourself from ending too soon either, I think about them to get myself prepped.

[ford_racer]

I don't mind the 98-02s. I don't like the new one however.

[97talon]

Originally Posted by ford_racer

On a side note, that Bimmer moved!

BTW, STFU.

I'll have to watch it when I get home, work has youtube blocked.

And I never questioned them being 12 second cars, just mid 12's.

And who do I pm to have his name officially changed to ford_ricer?

[ford_racer]

Originally Posted by 97talon

And I never questioned them being 12 second cars, just mid 12's.

Read post 140 where you agreed with Meshrah, or whatever his name is, saying the only Mustangs that ran 12s were GT500s.

Ford had the Mustang into the 12s in 2000 with the 00 Cobra R.

[bmxer99]

wow. i <3 this thread.

damn where do i start.. here goes.

An 03-04 Cobra STOCK will run a very low 13 with the correct driver, and hell even a factory freak might pop the 12.9999 mark. but with Dr's they hit 12's consistantly. Then again the driver mod is needed.

now onto the 408lsx IRON block... That thing will ****ing ear rape a 4.6l motor all day, even the cobras get ***** slapped by them. N/A you can push 500hp or so. N/A!!! i dont see many cobras doing that.. wait they all need boost to do that..

Chalk one up for the general.

Hell Even if you went F/I to compete with a KB powered 4.6l your still going to get torn the **** up. i think at one point mighty mouse's old set up was 1000 hp on the ls1 block.

now a 408 lsx engine with a 91mm turbo would molest any cobra

lsx > 4.6

[97talon]

He said it was the only mustang the he knew of running 12's. Kind of like you saying evo's and sti's are 12 second cars. Everyone makes mistakes.

[bmxer99]

but seriously, in the 1/8 mile with my auto, i can drag a 400hp cobra from the hole and run a better time. good drivers are hard to find.

plus so what if their motor holds more power, they also cost twice as much in most cases..

[Ford88]

Originally Posted by ford_racer

Read post 140 where you agreed with Meshrah, or whatever his name is, saying the only Mustangs that ran 12s were GT500s.

Ford had the Mustang into the 12s in 2000 with the 00 Cobra R.

Anybody know someone that owns a 00 cobra R? There are about 4 or 5 mustangs that run those times stock out of the 634859643 type of mustangs that were built. Any other mustang and you better start modding.