LS1 Rx-7

[Rotorsaru wa]

oh for pete's sake, that's a direct quote from JBH's website.. which is just filled with lies/contradiction. 1.) they've admitted to the coatings being a proprietary to their company.. hence it cannot be the Le mans coatings. 2) and this is the best one, at the time they wrote this press release and indeed even today , they have no proof of longevity, wear or any other parameter. They don't have a clue what seals work the best ( they recommend ceramic now as a default.. but they have no clue how they seat, wear or seal ). 3) they use housings to get their limit measurements from, so they are working from the tolerances of the housing not the actual spec's for the housing.. so it's impossible for them to 'exceed factory specs' when they don't know what they are to begin with..

Originally Posted by SevPP

Rotorsaru wa- that explains the bad press that I've heard then.

There's a guy here in Aus that was advertising cermet coated housings. This is what was posted.

"We offer ceramic coated rotor housings that are proven to last up to 10 times longer than stock rotor housings. In addition to their outstanding durability, these performance rotor housings also generate less friction and help generate more power from your engine. We offer two different coatings, referred to as Cermet A and Cermet B. Both coatings contain carbide particles for wear resistance. Cermet A coating is the exact coating used by Mazda in the 24 hours of Le Mans winning 787B racecar. Cermet B is used in many Nascar and Formula 1 racecars including the Ferrari F1 team.
Our rotor housings are guaranteed to meet or exceed original factory specifications"

"The cermet A and Cermet B coatings are ideal for high performance street or racing applications. These coatings are highly recommended when using aftermarket steel apex seals or when using ceramic apex seals."



Now I'm not sure but I have a feeling he was sourcing to, or going to, from the US but that info wasn't given. I'd love to have my pp housings done but it all adds up. When do you stop? haha!

[R1KID]

Originally Posted by Rotorsaru wa

LOL .. press release.. yeah, I'll get right on that. Right after right after Bush does a press release to say, ' nope we invaded Iraq because we felt like it.. there were no WMD..'..
No company is going to give out info like that in any official capacity, Are you new!? However I do believe their was at least article written about it in one of the big American car mags. do a search it's out there.. personally I didn't care enough to save a link for it from 4 years ago.

Hey, lets not change the topic to the Bush administration, so let me get this straight, it went from "common knowledge" to no official info, there isn't any official info out there because it's not true, it's purley speculation, so your statement is simply a figment of your imagination not "FACT", there isn't a conspiracy to oppress the rotary RX8 and everyone outside your bubble of dilusion can clearly see this, while we're on the topic of dilusion and you seem to have an act to fabricate fairytales, what's the relationship between the Ford GT and Aston Martin, or Explorer and Land Rover, how about Lincoln and Jaguar, ya that's what I thought.

[Double]

Get your context right..I wasn't people in North America needing higher educations .. it was Americans.. [/quote]


Just a thought!
Generalizing 300 million people doesn't make you sound very intelligent!

You seem to have a lot of experience and knowledge that could help people to understand your perspective. Why not debate the technology instead of disrespecting people? Talk to people this way and you will always be the smartest one in the conversation, and the only one.

[BOTLFEDLT1]

Thats part of the reason why I gave up on debating the point (the other reason being the fact that a few of my questions were dodged, but oh well).

People who dont have logic on their side often resort to baseless name calling and bringing up things that have nothing to do with the topic being debated, such as the ever so popular bush-is-an-idiot, all americans are unintelligent, everyone else in the world hates the USA, etc

What all of this has to do with the original topic of discussion, which for those of you that are just tuning in now, was why many people replace their "superior" rotary engine with an "inferior" piston engine, I dont know. Someone correct me if Im wrong, but the last time I checked, ALL of the supposedly refined europeans and japanese automakers have alos embraced archaic piston engine technology - not just the Americans. If it had been a supra engine that got swapped into the RX7 instead of an LS1, would you still have the same beef? Hrmmm.

I guess everyone in the world is simply not intelligent enough to jump on the rotary bandwagon. If rotary engines could equal or exceed the performance, meet emissions standards, fuel efficiency, durability and cost of manufacturer of piston engines, there would be more than one manufacturer embracing them now. As it stands, this isnt the case.

Originally Posted by Double

Get your context right..I wasn't people in North America needing higher educations .. it was Americans..

Just a thought!
Generalizing 300 million people doesn't make you sound very intelligent!

You seem to have a lot of experience and knowledge that could help people to understand your perspective. Why not debate the technology instead of disrespecting people? Talk to people this way and you will always be the smartest one in the conversation, and the only one.[/quote]

[Ford88]

you are a poopoo head bottlefed omg that rhymes lol

but seriously pushrod motors from what ive heard can take beatings lol is the ls1 a pushrod or overhead cam?

[BOTLFEDLT1]

You are a poet, and dont know it.

The LS1 is a pushrod motor. So simple, yet so effective. lol. Its a tough motor... deep skirt aluminum block, 6 bolt mains....

Originally Posted by Ford88

you are a poopoo head bottlefed omg that rhymes lol

but seriously pushrod motors from what ive heard can take beatings lol is the ls1 a pushrod or overhead cam?

[Ford88]

wow you rhymed too

knowing your a poet that yould be a clue

god im retarded

[SevPP]

Originally Posted by Rotorsaru wa

oh for pete's sake, that's a direct quote from JBH's website.. which is just filled with lies/contradiction. 1.) they've admitted to the coatings being a proprietary to their company.. hence it cannot be the Le mans coatings. 2) and this is the best one, at the time they wrote this press release and indeed even today , they have no proof of longevity, wear or any other parameter. They don't have a clue what seals work the best ( they recommend ceramic now as a default.. but they have no clue how they seat, wear or seal ). 3) they use housings to get their limit measurements from, so they are working from the tolerances of the housing not the actual spec's for the housing.. so it's impossible for them to 'exceed factory specs' when they don't know what they are to begin with..

Well if thats the case I'm glad I didn't put any money down to get some then. That info was taken from a post on a group buy thread from another forum and had no links to any particular company- but now I know.

[R1KID]

Originally Posted by Ford88

you are a poopoo head bottlefed omg that rhymes lol

but seriously pushrod motors from what ive heard can take beatings lol is the ls1 a pushrod or overhead cam?

Originally Posted by BOTLFEDLT1

You are a poet, and dont know it.

The LS1 is a pushrod motor. So simple, yet so effective. lol. Its a tough motor... deep skirt aluminum block, 6 bolt mains....

So the next time a ricer complains "but you have twice the pistons and twice the displacement" V8 guys could say "well u have twice the valves per cylinder and twice the cams", "you have V-TEC", or in this case "superior rotary design", hahahaha f*cking ricers make me laugh, just let the results speak for themselves.

[UKunt]

Originally Posted by R1KID

So the next time a ricer complains "but you have twice the pistons and twice the displacement" V8 guys could say "well u have twice the valves per cylinder and twice the cams", "you have V-TEC", or in this case "superior rotary design", hahahaha f*cking ricers make me laugh, just let the results speak for themselves.

wow u must have a mullet and be a dumb as american or a dumb ass wannabee canuck american.as all u think is everyone with a jap car is a ricer.so as u keep thinking all people with jap cars are ricers.i will call u a dumb ass mullet hair cut american.as assumptions are a mother fuker. and i can see a ban coming your way soon coz ur just being a dumb asss.

[Soup]

Originally Posted by burgh

wow u must have a mullet and be a dumb as american or a dumb ass wannabee canuck american.as all u think is everyone with a jap car is a ricer.so as u keep thinking all people with jap cars are ricers.i will call u a dumb ass mullet hair cut american.as assumptions are a mother fuker. and i can see a ban coming your way soon coz ur just being a dumb asss.

What???
:banghead:

[R1KID]

Originally Posted by burgh

wow u must have a mullet and be a dumb as american or a dumb ass wannabee canuck american.as all u think is everyone with a jap car is a ricer.so as u keep thinking all people with jap cars are ricers.i will call u a dumb ass mullet hair cut american.as assumptions are a mother fuker. and i can see a ban coming your way soon coz ur just being a dumb asss.

No I don't sport a mullet and I don't think all people with jap cars are ricers, only the ones who make dumb ass excuses or irrelevant comments like interior trim or engine design after losing in a contest of speed, and don't flatter yourself, your perception of me or my actions means nothing.

[UKunt]

Originally Posted by Souperduck

What???
:banghead:

well the main point is.dont call people who own a jap car a ricer.or people who live in american will be called a dumb ass mullet haired burger eating american.

[R1KID]

Originally Posted by Souperduck

What???
:banghead:

HAHAHAHA, my thoughts exactly.

[UKunt]

Originally Posted by R1KID

No I don't sport a mullet and I don't think all people with jap cars are ricers, only the ones who make dumb ass excuses or irrelevant comments like interior trim or engine design after losing in a contest of speed, and don't flatter yourself, your perception of me or my actions means nothing.

well dont reffer to people as ricers,just because they dont ahve a super dopper v8 made by GM the gods of the motor world:YAWN:.then u people would no think yanks are redneck dumb asses ..im glad this was cleared up.