hpc.derf. 9.57@162.7

[HANS]

[Jonnychadootz]

Fast car, no doubt about that but....Why do u need a wheelie bar on a fwd car?

[MCA]

Originally Posted by Jonnychadootz

Fast car, no doubt about that but....Why do u need a wheelie bar on a fwd car?

Well you need them to improve traction, ever wonder why you get better traction when you make your FWD car rear suspension stiffer?.When a car experiences accelerations a change in weight distribution happens, if you turn to the right both left tires will take more weight than the right ones, if you accelerate forward the weight transfers to the rear tires, this is why you can make wheelies with RWD applications, as a large % of weight transfers to the rear tires to improve its traction.
In that Civic... with those wheelies he tries to prevent this switch in weight distribution to happen in order to maintain the maximum possible traction in the front wheels.
I think that there are another gains for having a larger wheelbase but I am not sure.

Thats a fast Civic, the trap speed is insane...

[HANS]

honestly hes been trying the wheelie bars not so much for the launch weight distribution but the fact that he was blowing the tires off at the top end of the track in 4th. those bars sort of keep that under control a little bit. theres quite a few reasons for them. thats just one. MCA said it good enough though.

[UKunt]

damm fast lil civic..what kind of power is that thing kicking out.?

[Jonnychadootz]

[QUOTE=MCA;597185]Well you need them to improve traction, ever wonder why you get better traction when you make your FWD car rear suspension stiffer?.When a car experiences accelerations a change in weight distribution happens, if you turn to the right both left tires will take more weight than the right ones, if you accelerate forward the weight transfers to the rear tires, this is why you can make wheelies with RWD applications, as a large % of weight transfers to the rear tires to improve its traction.
In that Civic... with those wheelies he tries to prevent this switch in weight distribution to happen in order to maintain the maximum possible traction in the front wheels.
I think that there are another gains for having a larger wheelbase but I am not sure.



Very interesting Mr. Bond.... So it's sorta like when I floor my shitty Prelude and the front end jumps up because the rear (and the rest of the suspension) is too loose except (I'm gonna guess that car in the vid has somewhere around 700-800hp, if not more) So the car in the vid is dealing with a lil over 4x the force. At 1st look i though it was some kind of joke TY for explaining guys, makes alot more sense now.

[HANS]

Originally Posted by UKunt

damm fast lil civic..what kind of power is that thing kicking out.?

Originally Posted by Jonnychadootz

I'm gonna guess that car in the vid has somewhere around 700-800hp, if not more

close, 870whp. heres the dyno sheet and the vid i took while it was on there. im the one standing on the drivers door well lol. need the big guys on there to attempt to add some weight to stop the spinning and moving. and the camera man was standing on the front straps so thats why its bouncy when he gives it some gas lol.

Originally Posted by HPC.DERF.

Setup:
84.5mm cp pistons with upgraded wrist pins
eagle rods
benson ls crank
gsr head ported in house
rev valvetrain
skunk2 pro1 cams

1600cc injectors
aeromotive a1000 fuel pump
vp q16 fuel

hondata s300 with hondata boost controller

this pass was on 33psi and a 50 shot

car is now on 40 psi and a 80 shot, but cant get it to not spin on the dyno.

this is the same power i went 9.5@163 with

[civicHBturbo]

sick honda

[HANS]

^^ you check your pm's?

[pwdbychevy]

mad loco civic yo!

[Ford88]

First dyno sheet that I have seen that doesn't have a torque line... o wait... its a honda

[HANS]

lol. honestly it should be on there. but our dyno has been having problems lately and we are waiting on the dyno tech to com fix it. its been filling up with water below and sometimes we cant get the torque readings correct.

[UKunt]

Originally Posted by Ford88

First dyno sheet that I have seen that doesn't have a torque line... o wait... its a honda

lol you think anyone cares about tourque when it runs 9s.. im guessing your stang has nearly the same tourque.but you run 14s with tourque..

[HANS]

lol. and i havent gotten a copy of the most recent dyno sheet but it hit the 1000fwhp mark derf was shooting for. then the clutch said **** you im out and gave up. so new clutch and new 4th gear and we should be good to go for the october 4th NSCRA event. and i can put the new HD cam to the test.