1500hp Ls1 Ta

[nx468]

Yes its the first LS1 in the 7s , http://www.weracehardcore.com/VideoW5.html , http://www.weracehardcore.com
heres their contact # 1-810-787-2960
email info@weracehardcore.com
Also pull up the latest Hot Rod magazine listed the specs on this car.
this is nothing but a stock block with sleeves and o ringed , yes it has Aftermarket heads and all the usual other goodies. But it doesnt have a aftermarket block thats been bored to whatever. And yes this is a GEN III LS1 production block from GM. Fastest LS1 listed to date.

Enjoy

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I didn't see "stock block" anywhere in there. Care to point out where they discuss that? Thanks.

[nx468]

Originally Posted by Verrückt

I didn't see "stock block" anywhere in there. Care to point out where they discuss that? Thanks.

Where does Fastest GEN III LS1 do you not see ? Are you blind or just ****ing stupid ? Did you call the #s how about send a email , how about pull up the specs from HRM , have you done any of this things ? Hell no all you have done is run your mouth and show your arrogance once again.

[95bat]

Wow it's supercharged... That is nice to know
Awesome car...

[nx468]

Theres no way they will get this to run 6s. they would have to get certified past 7.5s, that would require them to gut everything and chromoly , not only that but its asking alot out of a LS1. They would have to be in the upper 2100+ hp to achieve that. But you never know miracles can happen. We will see as time goes on.

[Osiris_v]

Originally Posted by Verrückt

I didn't see "stock block" anywhere in there. Care to point out where they discuss that? Thanks.

http://www.weracehardcore.com/News2.php?id=12

“Becoming the first Gen III small block-powered car to run in the sevens is certainly a great achievement,” <- quote from the site by the marketing director.

and if you still doubt this ..call them and get them to tell you what they used for a block..the number is right there

[dragz]

Originally Posted by Osiris_v

http://www.weracehardcore.com/News2.php?id=12

“Becoming the first Gen III small block-powered car to run in the sevens is certainly a great achievement,” <- quote from the site by the marketing director.

and if you still doubt this ..call them and get them to tell you what they used for a block..the number is right there

That car does not have a stock block it has what is called a C5R block which is a $6000 + aftermarket race block (Just the block). Even though general motors makes it , it is an aftermarket block , just like a bowtie block.

Gen III does not mean stock block , it refers to the engine family or basically the 3rd generation Chevy/General motors small block that is curently being used and produced now.

For instance , Chevy cars in Nascar use a Gen 1 block, but it is not a stock block by any means. It is a gen 1 block and so is a stock 350 from 1970 chey truck or car, but the nascar block is not near stock even though it is a gen 1. It is a very expensive block that probably cost thousands of dollars , kind off like bowtie blocks, donavan blocks , cnc blocks, dart block etc...... All make gen 1 blocks, but they are not stock. They are aftermarket stronger, and somtimes better designed blocks. Parts such as rods and pistons etc. still fit , either with or without some modification, but they are NOT stock blocks.

The same is true of the C5R block in that car, it belongs to the GenIII family which is the same family as the Ls1/ls6 , and ls2 , but that is a several thousand dollar race block. Last prices I saw were $6400 and $6800.

[Verrückt]

Originally Posted by dragz

That car does not have a stock block it has what is called a C5R block which is a $6000 + aftermarket race block (Just the block). Even though general motors makes it , it is an aftermarket block , just like a bowtie block.

Gen III does not mean stock block , it refers to the engine family or basically the 3rd generation Chevy/General motors small block that is curently being used and produced now.

For instance , Chevy cars in Nascar use a Gen 1 block, but it is not a stock block by any means. It is a gen 1 block and so is a stock 350 from 1970 chey truck or car, but the nascar block is not near stock even though it is a gen 1. It is a very expensive block that probably cost thousands of dollars , kind off like bowtie blocks, donavan blocks , cnc blocks, dart block etc...... All make gen 1 blocks, but they are not stock. They are aftermarket stronger, and somtimes better designed blocks. Parts such as rods and pistons etc. still fit , either with or without some modification, but they are NOT stock blocks.

The same is true of the C5R block in that car, it belongs to the GenIII family which is the same family as the Ls1/ls6 , and ls2 , but that is a several thousand dollar race block. Last prices I saw were $6400 and $6800.

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[nx468]

Originally Posted by dragz

That car does not have a stock block it has what is called a C5R block which is a $6000 + aftermarket race block (Just the block). Even though general motors makes it , it is an aftermarket block , just like a bowtie block.

Gen III does not mean stock block , it refers to the engine family or basically the 3rd generation Chevy/General motors small block that is curently being used and produced now.

For instance , Chevy cars in Nascar use a Gen 1 block, but it is not a stock block by any means. It is a gen 1 block and so is a stock 350 from 1970 chey truck or car, but the nascar block is not near stock even though it is a gen 1. It is a very expensive block that probably cost thousands of dollars , kind off like bowtie blocks, donavan blocks , cnc blocks, dart block etc...... All make gen 1 blocks, but they are not stock. They are aftermarket stronger, and somtimes better designed blocks. Parts such as rods and pistons etc. still fit , either with or without some modification, but they are NOT stock blocks.

The same is true of the C5R block in that car, it belongs to the GenIII family which is the same family as the Ls1/ls6 , and ls2 , but that is a several thousand dollar race block. Last prices I saw were $6400 and $6800.

I think you need to check the newest HRM my friend on the spec of this car. Before you make assumptions, if this was a C5R block why would they call this the fastest LS1 in the world and not the Fastest C5R Block in the world? Like I stated pull up the lastest HRM and look at the specs,I also gave the contact # and email, I was in disbelief myself. And BTW your Nascar theory I about fell out of the chair laughing at http://www.geomagic.com/advantage/nascar/rcr-index.php3 SB2 my freind something I see you have no idea of.
I run a Gen V any idea what that is ? Sorry no Gen I your talking about the original SBC design back in 1955. You cant call a Dart Block a Gen I block , you cant call a Donavan A Gen I block. Gen I stands for Generation Series I (designed and built by GM)my friend. funny I laughed for awhile thanks

[dragz]

Originally Posted by nx468

I think you need to check the newest HRM my friend on the spec of this car. Before you make assumptions, if this was a C5R block why would they call this the fastest LS1 in the world and not the Fastest C5R Block in the world? Like I stated pull up the lastest HRM and look at the specs,I also gave the contact # and email, I was in disbelief myself. And BTW your Nascar theory I about fell out of the chair laughing at http://www.geomagic.com/advantage/nascar/rcr-index.php3 SB2 my freind something I see you have no idea of.
I run a Gen V any idea what that is ? Sorry no Gen I your talking about the original SBC design back in 1955. You cant call a Dart Block a Gen I block , you cant call a Donavan A Gen I block. Gen I stands for Generation Series I (designed and built by GM)my friend. funny I laughed for awhile thanks

mongse
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LOL. Nice try. First a your gen V is a big block since you think I don't know. Second if you new as much as you think you do, you would know Why they don't say call it the fastest C5R in that article . If a dart blocked 383 small block chevy breaks a record, they are probably not going to call it a the fastest dart block, they will call it the fastest small block chevy. It's because their is much debabte, and many people cosider the C5R an LS1 just like they consider an Ls2, Ls6, truck motors etc , and Ls1. If someboy breaks a record with a Ls6 motor they likely will still likely call it an ls1. The gen III engines are considered to all be in the Ls1 family by many, especially some in the "Ls1" community. As far as the word gen 1 maybe I should say SBC . When I refered to the donavan, etc, bowtie, etc I am refering to the style of engine not the factory gm engine . The type from 1955 or so is gen 1 ,The SB2.2 is called a second generation small chevy small block. , but the 1992 Lt1 is also called by some gen II and genIII in the ls1, ls2, cr5 etc. I was not refering to gen I as factory gm engines, but the type or first generation type of small block or commonly called SBC. So maybe I should just say SBC. The nascar sb2.2 is an SBC even though it is very advanced. Donavans, and darts, bowties etc, are also SBC and many are of first generation heritage. I know they are not genI stock blocks. An ls1 is a chey small block, but they are usually not refered to as SBC which again is used to refer to the first STYLE or first generation TYPE small block. I am not calling a donavan a factory small block chevy, when I say gen 1, but refering to the fist generation type or SBC. Even with all the technology, an sb2 or 2.2 is still refered to as an SBC. We also have to be carefull of saying genI or generaton 1, because the Lt1 was basically the first change of the 1950's small block, with it's reverse cooling and is called gen II also, but a nascar sb2.2 is a called a thes second generation small block chevy. I will just call the them SBC to make it easier. My point is that the donavans, bowties, darts, etc are SBC , not that they are factory gm blocks . They are the same type and use the same parts. A bowtie block can use the parts from a 1970 sbc, and evne some parts will work on an sb2.2 . Sb2.2 heads will work on older engines (sbc's) and I have even seen them on an LT1(which is basically a reversed cooled sbc). They will take some work though. They WON't work on an Ls1 , ls2 etc.. however. When I say gen I again I use that term not in the factory gm sense of the word. For clarification.

While you were doing all that laughing, you should have been doing more research. You show that you don't know much on the subject by the fact that you asked why they called a C5R an ls1. Read some of the quotes below about The TRANS AM in question from another board. An LS1 board at that

Also this link http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...t=c5R+hardcore

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Posts: 817 What does it matter if he did it at a private track rental, TNT, or during a bracket program. The car went 7s...that's all there is to it and it's faster than anyone else has ever gone w/ that motor. Now someone just has to go faster...who's gonna be in the 6s first?

I can't believe no one said "It doesn't count because it's a C5R motor!"
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01-21-2005, 10:29 AM #38
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congrats on having the first C5R to reach sevens, a truely remarkable feet.

i think lots of turbo cars will be in the sevens as soon as they start hitting the track.

the ls1tech series records are to be honored if run at one of our events, similiar to what the mustang guys do.

hardcore racing should know this was being discussed provided they read the sponser section.

though they havent run a seven untill they show proof
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[nx468]

Ill say this is the last time before this gets closed. I gave you the contact #, I gave you the email. You can drive your lazyass(or cheapass) to any convience store that supplys Hot Rod Magazine. Read the entire specs on this LS1 Trans AM, this is the all alumi LS1 block. I WAS IN DISBELIEF MYSELF ! DO I NEED TO SPELL IT LARGER FOR YOU !! MORON !! Your trying to take a word from some jealous ass moron on a forum. Not from anyone else but a jackass. I have given you all the proof you need on the subject of this car. If your either too lazy or too stubborn to DO any of the 3 things I have listed as proof of this ,then your not worth the typing from my fingers again.


ramble and stupidity [quote=dragz]

For instance , Chevy cars in Nascar use a Gen 1 block, but it is not a stock block by any means. It is a gen 1 block and so is a stock 350 from 1970 chey truck or car, but the nascar block is not near stock even though it is a gen 1. It is a very expensive block that probably cost thousands of dollars , kind off like bowtie blocks, donavan blocks , cnc blocks, dart block etc...... All make gen 1 blocks, but they are not stock. QUOTE]
I beleive I had to show you the light on the Nascar subject. As of the SB2 my small minded friend now with ME having to state the facts, then you go into a ramble even more with your next post which isnt even worth quoting. Thanks for the laughs cause Im still cheesin from ear to ear.