Corvette ZR1 vs Nissan GTR

[bmxer99]

weight doesnt matter as much from a roll realistically.

good runs though

[HANS]

Originally Posted by Turbo AWD

Why the R35 hate?

Why do the haters say the R35 practically drives itself -Vs- the old R34? Did the old R34 not have the trick AWD system? Did the old R34 not have the in-dash electronics, much like this new R35?

Where is this drastic change?

Yes! it has the BS launch control. Yes! it's got a semi auto gear box, and Yes! it's a pig.
But it still 6 cylinder. It's still twin-charged. It's still awd. It still performs, and handles great. So where is the problem? Sure it's a bit more complex, but making a fat girl dance like a ballerina is no easy feat.

What i find real funny though is how people say "f-uck all the electronic aids!"

Okay! Mr. Schumacher wannabe! think you'll push a 480Hp machine to it's limits, easy as cake? Cuz your just that good! Haha!!! fools! But again these are the "honda type" drivers, this is what they do...Go online, and talk sh!t. BTW there is a big difference between just driving a high Hp car -Vs- pushing its limits.

It's one thing to say i prefer the ZR1, because i prefer the simpler platform. But to say the GTR is garbage, just because it's a bit more complex is just foolish.

Like i said before, whats wrong with a car that works with the driver to achieve the very best?

i hope your not talking about me cause i never said anything bad about the R35
but....
isnt the R34 a stickshift and the R35 have paddle shift??

and a 480hp machine isnt anything big. if anything thats the norm nowadays. the cars we build and roll around with are mostly 400whp and up. mostly hondas, srt's, evos, cobras, etc.

[97talon]

Pretty sure he wasn't ^^^

[SevPP]

I will make the guess that it was aimed at me.

I have been in an R34 GTR (vspec 2 Nur) and it was still a twitchy car at the limits. Definately easier to drive than a similar powered rwd but it required alot more skill than the r35. I have seen the R35, clean in front of me, make a complete and total mess of a corner entry in the wet, and then see it straighten up and drive off (very un natural)- Of which the driver had very little to do with.(apart from the messy entry) 480hp isn't alot when the car is so heavy. Point in case- My FC RX7 with ~300rwhp ran neck and neck with a stock R35 at Winton (my local track) down the main straight. Overall the R35 was somewhat quicker (cautious driver- average conditions) around the whole track. But from 2nd-4th (rev buzzer in my car) we were neck and neck.

As I said- its auto. I have no time for that. The computers have made the car fast to the point that most will be able to go quick. The need of 'real' driver skills has been diminshed.

And for a bit of useless info. My mate has been in both my FC and his uncles R35 and readily admitted that the FC was alot more fun and a lot harder to drive quick. I have video of me and the R35 on the track (it's not great but it shows that I'm not talking rubbish)

As for my driver skills. I would go so far as to say that I would be a better driver than 95% of the people on this forum (not that that is any claim to fame). Not being big headed but I do consider myself to be a good driver.

PS I'd take an R32 GTR over any of the others!

[SevPP]

And to add.

I never said it was garbage. I just plain and simple do not like it.

I never argued it's performance. It is an awesome car, there is no doubt- but I do not like it for the way it's performance is acheived.

[EVILZ33]

Originally Posted by Turbo AWD

Why the R35 hate?

Why do the haters say the R35 practically drives itself -Vs- the old R34? Did the old R34 not have the trick AWD system? Did the old R34 not have the in-dash electronics, much like this new R35?

Where is this drastic change?

Yes! it has the BS launch control. Yes! it's got a semi auto gear box, and Yes! it's a pig.
But it still 6 cylinder. It's still twin-charged. It's still awd. It still performs, and handles great. So where is the problem? Sure it's a bit more complex, but making a fat girl dance like a ballerina is no easy feat.

What i find real funny though is how people say "f-uck all the electronic aids!"

Okay! Mr. Schumacher wannabe! think you'll push a 480Hp machine to it's limits, easy as cake? Cuz your just that good! Haha!!! fools! But again these are the "honda type" drivers, this is what they do...Go online, and talk sh!t. BTW there is a big difference between just driving a high Hp car -Vs- pushing its limits.

It's one thing to say i prefer the ZR1, because i prefer the simpler platform. But to say the GTR is garbage, just because it's a bit more complex is just foolish.

Like i said before, whats wrong with a car that works with the driver to achieve the very best?

they chug down the gt-r hateorade in copius amounts around here.

[Turbo AWD]

SevPP my friend, my comments were not aimed at you at all. They are aimed at those that talk big sh!t, without really knowing whats what.

[SevPP]

No worries then, my mistake! Cheers, Glen.

[HANS]

Originally Posted by 97talon

Pretty sure he wasn't ^^^

i noticed that after i reread the thread lol. oops

[97talon]

If you go back a really reread there was only 1 person that called the gtr a turd lol.

[Memphis]

I am a stickler for even numbers so the GTR is a turd

[Magnusen]

Originally Posted by Memphis

I am a stickler for even numbers so the GTR is a turd

Exactly?

[HANS]

Originally Posted by 97talon

If you go back a really reread there was only 1 person that called the gtr a turd lol.

[American Psycho]

Gtr is a turd, Bring on the 80k AWD paddle shifter

[HANS]

Originally Posted by American Psycho

Gtr is a turd, Bring on the 80k AWD paddle shifter

your gonna make Turbo AWD upset now.