Z06 vs GTR on a track

[Memphis]

Wasn't sure where to put this since I don't know if there is a clear winner lol. On the Z06 owners vid it says they are both stock but the GTR owner says the Z has a tune and filter?




Heres what the GTR owner had to say.
Hey all

So, the raging debate is, will the GTR stand up to the Z06 in the real world, stock for stock, equal drivers, stock tires. Well I can tell you it can. I went out for a 6th Gear track day at NHMS, a tight 1.57 mile 12 turn road course, the perfect storm for the Z06 with all the V8 low end grunt. FOr a 4000 pound car, no matter if it has AWD or not, a tight technical course is a real equalizer. I was nervous. I did not want to be the first GTR to get its ass handed it it in the real world and on tape. My good friend John (Yellow Z) and Eric (bronze Z) came up to see this thing for real.

The NHMS is a road-oval. An oval NASCAR with a road course built into the infield. I hate these. They are bumpy, beat the car, and with all the tight stuff at this place kills the tires. I honestly thought the Z06 would dominate me, as it is significantly lighter has 505 HP, and can get it down to the ground with huge tires.

Well, I can tell you, that the GTR keeps up just fine. We put the GTR in-between the 2 Z's and we all were trading spots all day. i had a fantastic time once I figured out how to get this car to keep up. And... The car above 100, does not get pulled. As a matter of fact it pulls on the Z often.

Advantage Z06 - Tight stuff, slower speed corners were i push into the corner and cant get on the throttle. On turn 3 on the uphill the Z can turn in faster, thus eating me on the uphill.

Advantage GTR - The last chicane, were is a high speed sweeper, the GTR can put the power down and pulls the Z on the front strait. Coming out of the bowl turn if I am in 3rd, I can pull the Z coming out of the bowl. It took me a while to figure out i had to shift. I felt I could out brake the Z as well even though I was heavier.

Guys, the GTR is a fine track car, that keeps right up with anything on the track. Eric john and I were the fastest cars on street tires at this event, and EVERYONE was watching. The resounding consensus is that the GTR and Z06 are very much even, and would take a more advanced driver to get more out of both platforms.

I took video, however a lot of the runs with John were not recorded as I ran out of room on my stick. Its too bad as I passed him twice, and he passed me once. We both breathed a sigh of relief that we would not be the once all over the net getting the other once rear end kicked. When I ran wit Eric, I had a Z06 instructor in the car (Gary Hoffamn from Harbar) and was very tentative, but got back on pace and passed Eric at the end. I felt bad, the one C5 Z out with use was commenting that he felt like he was just getting in our way.

The conclusion is the cars are evenly matched. The GTR is not the modern day Delorian like the vette guys seem to be hoping. After a day of 5 hours of track time I drove home, brakes fine, minimal 2mm of bad wear. Rotors were fine, tranny needs a flush (My choice) and another oil change (my choice) but that is it.

From the Z06
Viddler.com - John And Scott 2 - Uploaded by MAZO6
From GTR (this one is like 20+mins)
Viddler.com - NHMS 8/21/08 - Uploaded by ScottsGTR

[01mmmz28]

Of course the import owner is going to claim that the vette has mods...duh !!!! All vettes have mods, even the ones that roll off the show room floor.


and I could car less what some review writen by the owner of a GTR says, the Zo6 and the GTR are NOT NOT NOT in the same class. Even drivers, the ZO6 will mash the GTR's ass all day long. The GTR is an even match for a bone stock automatic LS3 vette, NOT a Z06. end of story.

[GTIKEN]

Very cool to see some real world drivers putting them through their paces.

I have seen some more articles and reviews come out on the GT-R with comparisons and it seems like theres barely a paper sheet between them, they both accomplish the same thing in a different way.

One side of the point to all this is that the cars can be driven by everyday people. This is one example of that. I think it proves that for the average track day enthusiast, there won't be much of a difference between the two.

Thanks Memphis!

[ray_sir_6]

Originally Posted by 01mmmz28

Of course the import owner is going to claim that the vette has mods...duh !!!! All vettes have mods, even the ones that roll off the show room floor.


and I could car less what some review writen by the owner of a GTR says, the Zo6 and the GTR are NOT NOT NOT in the same class. Even drivers, the ZO6 will mash the GTR's ass all day long. The GTR is an even match for a bone stock automatic LS3 vette, NOT a Z06. end of story.

I would figure the Z06 would do better in some of the higher speed stuff, since it has to be hard to put down 500ft/lbs thru 2 rear tires, no matter how wide they are. For the slower corners in the GTR, you would just have to point it where you want to go, mash the gas, and let AWD take you there. Alot of the stuff the guy with the GTR said doesn't make much sense.

[American Psycho]

I want both of the porches

[EVILZ33]

i agree what gti said they both do stuff really well but in differnt ways