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Old 20 Jan 2008, 11:45 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default New Original Track vid - Stock LS-1 12.9

I'm not bragging but I think 12.9 with a Full Weight stock LS-1 is pretty darn good. Yeah my Terminator is faster, that is not the point, my 99 has blown me away with what I have been able to do with Computerized EFI modern and totally behaved muscle. To me roll racing is ghey and you really can't hook-up much more power than it already has on the street from a dig without slicks, so I worked on how to hook what I already had instead of pumping up some Dyno Queen signature numbers that will just go up in tire smoke. Maybe I learned my lesson because I did just the opposite with my Cobra. With less than 1K miles it became super complicated with higher and higher HP the first summer I owned it, way before I learned to drive it. I take the Snake out and lurk on the weekends, but it isn't nearly as "streetable" now with Kirkey's and no AC. I love my SS and drive it every dry day and a few wet ones too. The seats are comfortable, the hatch holds a lot of crap and of course what isn't there to like about a T-56 and T Tops.



I know some people will want to know what I consider stock power and try to find something to ***** about well my SS LS-1 has K&N filters, SLP air box and bellows, 160* Tstat, Red Line Oil, Chokemaster muffler that came on the car (probably a HP robber), all the pollution controls intact and my own HP Tuners flash. It dyno'd right at 300HP/310TQ. I dunno, that is just good healthy stock LS-1 power to me.



For suspension mods I have Spohn CroMoly welded SFC's, adjustable TA, UCA's, LCA's, PHB, Royal Purple Trani juice, Poly Trani mount, F Swaybar delete, 10 bolt Billet Diff Cover, 4.10's, DS Loop, Nitto 315 DR's on 11" wheels and I slipped some air bags in there so I can go as low as I want with the tire pressure with the ability to put a little spring rate back in for sticky tracks. I do need to replace the clutch with something beefy, the stocker has 40+ passes but the money tree dropped it's leaves last fall, all over the money pit Cobra. Maybe later this summer I can get a Ram PowerGrip HD along with some Kooks headers & Electric cutouts :secret2:. I really want to listen to that LS-1 thru something other than that retarded stock Y pipe. Of course the plans could change if the Cobra breaks at the track.

Last year was really frustrating, I didn't get my Cobra to the track until late summer and struggled bad getting the SRA setup to work for me. I started by running my 99SS in the spring hoping I would get the Cobra to the track soon after the season started. However, after popping off a couple teeth from the Jegs 4.10 gear set, I didn't want to deal with replacing a clutch next and any other additional carnage from racing it hard so the SS was restored to back-up duty after getting a free replacement gear set from Jegs. I did manage 2 12.9's before the rear end clunking began to get bad and wife started questioning my sanity.. "How many cars are in pieces now? Hello, are you nuts!"

Woman, tell me something I don't know and just be glad I don't want to take your WRX race on on Sundays!

I decided to catch up on the footage from last year while watching the Patriot game. GO GIANTS!!!!!
I have another night time SS 12.92 from 5/9/07 to do as well as a couple 11.00 Cobra test passes without the juice from Sept & Oct and I will be caught up. Unfortunately Vista on my new laptop kept me from installing my copy of Pinnacle, so no P in P or fancy effects this time but IMHO this came out OK for WMM. Now I have to order Vegas to do Wide Screen 1080 movies from my new Sony HD movie camera, all my 08 movies are going to be upgraded to 16x9 HD.

This movie is a 3 camera shoot of NHRA non-electric Eliminator action from May 6 of last year, with two interesting in-car point of views. I am matched against a earlier Gen full race 9 sec Camaro with a huge big block and of course a Powerglide + Transbrake but no delay box. I HoleShot the crap out of him with a .007, stand on the brakes hard with a 4 car lead but still breakout with a 12.997. I wasn't very happy, I had him covered easy. Tell me what you think, good or bad.

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Old 21 Jan 2008, 10:40 am   #3 (permalink)
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12 sec daily driving street car...........very nice. But even better was your ability to hit a 1.8 short.
Good pick up of 3 mph in the 1/4 over stock, with your intake, tune, gear.
Kooks headers are a great choice. I'm sure you know this, but stick with stainless steel, even thou stainless will tarnish, it gives you that couple more hp over the more costly ceramic coated (which does not tarnish).
Another tip on the header, is if it's going to be a daily driver I'd stick with the shorty's, stay away from mid/ long tubes, cause you'll lose a little low, mid range power from my experience. (If I could do it over, I'd put on the shorty's unless I was going to turbo/ supercharge it.)
Look forward to seeing more vids.
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12 sec daily driving street car...........very nice. But even better was your ability to hit a 1.8 short.
Good pick up of 3 mph in the 1/4 over stock, with your intake, tune, gear.
Kooks headers are a great choice. I'm sure you know this, but stick with stainless steel, even thou stainless will tarnish, it gives you that couple more hp over the more costly ceramic coated (which does not tarnish).
Another tip on the header, is if it's going to be a daily driver I'd stick with the shorty's, stay away from mid/ long tubes, cause you'll lose a little low, mid range power from my experience. (If I could do it over, I'd put on the shorty's unless I was going to turbo/ supercharge it.)
Look forward to seeing more vids.

Thanks, I take my dig racing seriously, I hoping to pull consistent 1.4x's with my Cobra this spring, I get 1.5x's now and then with my new 9" SRA but I never really had it dialed in. I'll figure it out.

Slamming your kidneys into solid Kirkeys and pulling the wheels is completely indescribable!

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12 sec daily driving street car...........very nice. But even better was your ability to hit a 1.8 short.
Good pick up of 3 mph in the 1/4 over stock, with your intake, tune, gear.
Kooks headers are a great choice. I'm sure you know this, but stick with stainless steel, even thou stainless will tarnish, it gives you that couple more hp over the more costly ceramic coated (which does not tarnish).
Another tip on the header, is if it's going to be a daily driver I'd stick with the shorty's, stay away from mid/ long tubes, cause you'll lose a little low, mid range power from my experience. (If I could do it over, I'd put on the shorty's unless I was going to turbo/ supercharge it.)
Look forward to seeing more vids.
sorry dude, but if you are giving him advice about modding his LSX based car w/ what you said you are wrong, if it's the stang you refer to then I cannot question you. But, Long tubes are the best overall header choice for LSX based cars, they make the most power and TQ through the entire rpm range over a shortie or mid. And ceramic coated vs. stainless steel....there is no power difference.....that horse has been beaten to death by to many credible GM performance mags, internet sites etc..... Headers are just like any other product on the market, you pay for the name, just like tennis shoes.....My pacesetter LT's fit better, make the same power, and have lasted without tarnishing ( so far ) better than a friends Kooks headers.....and I paid $379 for mine, where he paid $999 for his.
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I stand corrected. The info I give was based on the Stang and not LS engines.
However, when I talked to a Kooks rep, the said the SS headers make a little more power. If they do or dont just a heads up.

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sorry dude, but if you are giving him advice about modding his LSX based car w/ what you said you are wrong, if it's the stang you refer to then I cannot question you. But, Long tubes are the best overall header choice for LSX based cars, they make the most power and TQ through the entire rpm range over a shortie or mid. And ceramic coated vs. stainless steel....there is no power difference.....that horse has been beaten to death by to many credible GM performance mags, internet sites etc..... Headers are just like any other product on the market, you pay for the name, just like tennis shoes.....My pacesetter LT's fit better, make the same power, and have lasted without tarnishing ( so far ) better than a friends Kooks headers.....and I paid $379 for mine, where he paid $999 for his.
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^ LOL...well of course he told you that....he wants a sale !!!!
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boys, boys, don't make me come back there! LOL!

I already researched the whole header thing for my LS-1 last summer and the stepped Kooks seemed to be what I was leaning towards, the money isn't a big thing. I do prefer jet-coated stainless for a number of reasons but last year they hadn't come out with their version with cutouts built in. I hoping I can get them to use me for a test mule. I dunno but the electric dumps, with my crappy ass sounding chokemaster stuffler masking what I have going until it is time to go is the sleeper trick I'm looking for. I add in HD RAM with a Billet Flywheel, 02 or McLeod TO bearing, drill out the TO master cylinder and some 6k launches and I should be mid 12's (until the 10 bolt detonates) with the same power. Right now I launch about 2500 and granny shift because the stock hydraulic clutch is very sluggish.

All that is on hold until I get the Cobra right though, because it is fun to drive now and I am trying to enjoy it, more that work on it for at least a little while longer.
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nice to have another ls1 guy around here, your pretty cool for a KB owner though. most ive met are all like, blah blah my mustang is so much better etc etc..

12.9 is damn good for your mods, i run an 8.1 in the 1/4 and thats on street tires and a stall
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I stand corrected. The info I give was based on the Stang and not LS engines.
However, when I talked to a Kooks rep, the said the SS headers make a little more power. If they do or dont just a heads up.
lol of course a rep will tell you that...

lol SS headers??
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boys, boys, don't make me come back there! LOL!

I already researched the whole header thing for my LS-1 last summer and the stepped Kooks seemed to be what I was leaning towards, the money isn't a big thing. I do prefer jet-coated stainless for a number of reasons but last year they hadn't come out with their version with cutouts built in. I hoping I can get them to use me for a test mule. I dunno but the electric dumps, with my crappy ass sounding chokemaster stuffler masking what I have going until it is time to go is the sleeper trick I'm looking for. I add in HD RAM with a Billet Flywheel, 02 or McLeod TO bearing, drill out the TO master cylinder and some 6k launches and I should be mid 12's (until the 10 bolt detonates) with the same power. Right now I launch about 2500 and granny shift because the stock hydraulic clutch is very sluggish.

All that is on hold until I get the Cobra right though, because it is fun to drive now and I am trying to enjoy it, more that work on it for at least a little while longer.

glad your aware of the shit rear end, it will go sooner then you think, and kooks makes a 2" set of headers now, instead of the 1 7/8. if you want a catback, borla, gmmg, or corsa are the way to go. imo i loved my borla, never heard it with headers on though.
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^ by SS headers he means Stainless Steel...........


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nice to have another ls1 guy around here, your pretty cool for a KB owner though. most ive met are all like, blah blah my mustang is so much better etc etc..

12.9 is damn good for your mods, i run an 8.1 in the 1/4 and thats on street tires and a stall
I know what your talking about and I'm the first guy to go out of their way to shut those twin screw diks up. Make them run from a dig and they don't know how to finesse the go pedal and usually look silly. I have seen STi's with upgraded turbo's smoke them.

I don't have a KB or whipple, I have the same Heaton that Ford sold me, although I have have modded it just a little (Steig IV). I might have a slightly larger lower pulley (6lb) and a slightly smaller upper (2.80) generating enough heat so NOS might help cool it a bit (150 shot). But no twin screw. I posted this last summer, it is me trying to figure out my new Solid 9". I spin completely thru 1st gear to a slow 11.3 but you can get a feel for my other ride even though the NOS tank is dry!

At this point of last summer I had no clue what to change in what direction to get it to hook. I would either dead hook and almost rip the tires off the rims, or I would have to spin some to keep momentum up. The last two weeks of the season in Oct, on a cold track the stiff sided slick I switched to seemed to handle the instant torque I was generating but then the year was over.

No matter what car or what pass, I drive it like I stole it.

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by the way, I drove the SS to work today, it was cold but dry and clear, I love these bonus winter days, it really helped me deal with the fact I had to work from 8am to 7:30pm with no OT (salary).
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nice, ill download the vids in a bit.

and kirk... nvm.
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04Snake, did you do any upgrades to the suspension to help you hook up? and did you replace your halfshafts in the IRS yet?
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