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Old 26 Jun 2007, 09:28 pm   #16 (permalink)
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Well, the Trans Am(I don't know exactly what has been done to it). But he should get some slicks(that's why slicks were designed) so the car doesn't fishtail during takeoff, those seconds can mean the difference between winning or losing. Let's see, lightweight wheels. For every pound the wheel weighs, it Also the Trans Am should get pretty much everything available for it from SLP(including modified ram air intake system), Granatelli Motorsports, ProCharger supercharger, a NOS fogger style system, chrome JE Pistons, hone the cylinders, Comp camshaft, Port and Polish the heads, titanium valvetrain components, forged connecting rods and crankshaft, high flow fuel pump, and high flow fuel injectors, platinum spark splugs, high end s/plug wires, a grounding system, everything MSD Ignition makes for the T/A (LS1). Aluminum or Carbon Fiber driveshaft, change out the differential, change out the torque converter for a high perfomance torque converter. Fuel Mapping software and a chip wouldn't hurt.
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Old 26 Jun 2007, 09:37 pm   #17 (permalink)
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**for every pound a wheel weighs while not in motion, it becomes 9 pounds when it is rotating due to centrifugal force. So you do the math, a 40 pound wheel, will weigh approx. 360 pounds.

Hey, UKUNT, check out this Ferrari Enzo video, this guys is hauling, even on the curves and does not lose control like Eddie Griffin did.

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both fast cars and good race. to trailering & nitrous. I wonder how much that Talon weighed looked to be totally stripped and the T/a look to have interior.
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**for every pound a wheel weighs while not in motion, it becomes 9 pounds when it is rotating due to centrifugal force. So you do the math, a 40 pound wheel, will weigh approx. 360 pounds.

Hey, UKUNT, check out this Ferrari Enzo video, this guys is hauling, even on the curves and does not lose control like Eddie Griffin did.

daily Car Videos .com » pushing Ferrari Enzo to the limits
yer thats a good video.
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both fast cars and good race. to trailering & nitrous. I wonder how much that Talon weighed looked to be totally stripped and the T/a look to have interior.
i dont know. ring GM and tell them to stop making cars so heavy.as its being used as a excuse for losing.

but anyway.both fast cars.but the 4 banger is faster n this video.pity the meat head was a bad loser and didnt pay up.
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It lost no denying it. Both fast rides
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Well, the Trans Am(I don't know exactly what has been done to it). But he should get some slicks(that's why slicks were designed) so the car doesn't fishtail during takeoff, those seconds can mean the difference between winning or losing. Let's see, lightweight wheels. For every pound the wheel weighs, it Also the Trans Am should get pretty much everything available for it from SLP(including modified ram air intake system), Granatelli Motorsports, ProCharger supercharger, a NOS fogger style system, chrome JE Pistons, hone the cylinders, Comp camshaft, Port and Polish the heads, titanium valvetrain components, forged connecting rods and crankshaft, high flow fuel pump, and high flow fuel injectors, platinum spark splugs, high end s/plug wires, a grounding system, everything MSD Ignition makes for the T/A (LS1). Aluminum or Carbon Fiber driveshaft, change out the differential, change out the torque converter for a high perfomance torque converter. Fuel Mapping software and a chip wouldn't hurt.
So spending $20k won't hurt?
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i seriously want to fuking kill who ever did the audio on the video, got the Music to sad but true from metallica, with some gay ass lyrics. and the video has been posted before, nice cars
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if the TA hooked his ass woulda been cooked
yup but... "Run what ya brung and hope ya brung enough" applies to more than HP. I'm also with memphis here, trailer and nitrous seem a bit off, especially the trailering part. If it's a street race then drive it TO the race, not just during. the TA needed those tires from the red celica
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**for every pound a wheel weighs while not in motion, it becomes 9 pounds when it is rotating due to centrifugal force. So you do the math, a 40 pound wheel, will weigh approx. 360 pounds.

Hey, UKUNT, check out this Ferrari Enzo video, this guys is hauling, even on the curves and does not lose control like Eddie Griffin did.

daily Car Videos .com » pushing Ferrari Enzo to the limits
NOW THATS A GOOD VID!

i wish there was some outta car cameras, that had to have been badass to see an enzo go sideways
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I want a few minutes of my life back, that was possibly the most boring video on the planet. I don't need to see the night video light up the turbocharged stickers and hood, or anything else. Just show me the race. And as much as I like that song, it was completely out of place and boring in that video. Terrible choice, my mouse hovered over the stop button to get rid of it.

On the race itself? No one said what mods were done to each, so one could have had far more under the hood than the other. I know some people like to keep it all secret, but I can't stand that.

On the trailered car too. Its a street car right? So drive it, don't trailer it.
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To 95 Bat, some Used 2006 Corvette ZO6's, you know the yellow ones, cost around $70K +. As do the new Shelby Cobras/ GT 500's, Saleens etc. So if you get like $15K to $20K 2002 Trans Am Ram Air, one could probably drop in an LS7, or do all that other mods I mentioned earlier(I forgot to mention a lightweight flywheel would help too) you would still be under the price of a new ZO6 Corvette, which I have seen the prices go as high as $80K.
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^a shop that does sponsorship on LS1 tech did a LS7 swap into a T/A i dont think they modded it I believe it dyno'd 480 @ the wheels through a auto
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To 95 Bat, some Used 2006 Corvette ZO6's, you know the yellow ones, cost around $70K +. As do the new Shelby Cobras/ GT 500's, Saleens etc. So if you get like $15K to $20K 2002 Trans Am Ram Air, one could probably drop in an LS7, or do all that other mods I mentioned earlier(I forgot to mention a lightweight flywheel would help too) you would still be under the price of a new ZO6 Corvette, which I have seen the prices go as high as $80K.
you make that sound simple.....AND IT'S NOT. The LS7 is on a dry sump oil system. Therefor, putting it into an fbody is a pain in the ass. 1ST you have to deal w/ installing the dry sump system, move the battery to the trunk and install dry sump where battery used to be. Then there is the fitment issue, the bay of the fbody is not as wide as the vette, custom made headers are needed as is modifications to the steering shaft. Other issues include the tranny, motor mounts need relocated, tuning, rear end, driveshaft.

and the Zo6's are not 70k, there have been several in my area from $64,500-----$ 67,000.
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On the race itself? No one said what mods were done to each, so one could have had far more under the hood than the other. I know some people like to keep it all secret, but I can't stand that.
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To 01mmmZ28, well my intention was not to make it "sound simple" because it's not. It's a major project, but it can be done, perhaps not with an LS7, but with an LS2. It's not for a novice either, most likely one would have to take it to a shop that specializes in doing that. Plus, relocating the battery to the trunk is no biggie, just need an isolator. Car stereo shops can do that for you. As far as engine mounts and such, one can always cut and weld and custom fabricate. Just check how these guys dropped in a supercharged LS1 into the bay of a Mitsubishi Evo:

Video - Mitsubishi Evo 9 with a Vortech Supercharged 5.7L LS1 V8. its still being tuned at this very moment, S/C not quite hooked up just yet but bolted in.

Where there is a will, there's a way. And yes, some Corvette ZO6's do cost well over $70K, and there are some, like you mentioned, in the
$64.5K to $67K price range. I've seen them go as high as $88.6K for the Ron Fellows edition. You can see it at:
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