C6 Z06 vs Bolt on LS1

[Verrückt]

Originally Posted by 95bat

I drove one for a while man. Not at a dealership with a salesman in the car either.

Everything else you said is just your opinion... which you can have and I won't change.

*sigh*

No, it's not just my opinion.

Does the Corvette have pushrods, low specific output, and leaf springs? Yes it does. I didn't say anything about whether or not the low tech parts work...because we know they work damn well. Compared to a new M5 though, the Z06 is lacking in technology.

Just so you know, the Corvette race car you are try to compare has very little to do with the street car. The first thing they do with the race car is ditch the leaf springs and put on some quality coilovers. That should tell you something.

Is the build quality up to the import brands?

No, and every published report agrees with that.

Sit in one of these if you want to see build quality.

Does the car perform? Of course. I never said it didn't. That's the reason I'll buy one.

[Verrückt]

Originally Posted by nx468

And your buying one ! Guess you'll have to show the Euro Snobs (like you) what a redneck mobile is all about smacking away all your German and Italian High Technology and at under 1/4 the cost of them, are you getting the wood grain gun rack for it too ? Oh they are going to be jealous of you! They might even call you a dare I say it (Stupid American)

Try to stay on topic !! :thumb:

Nah, I don't own any guns. I figure I'll just paint 'er up like the General Lee and hang a few Confederate flags out the back while I throw empty Pabst Blue Ribbon cans out the window.

[nx468]

Originally Posted by Verrückt

Nah, I don't own any guns. I figure I'll just paint 'er up like the General Lee and hang a few Confederate flags out the back while I throw empty Pabst Blue Ribbon cans out the window.

Trust me you're off on the beer brands, its Busch Light or the Beast. I dont see how people drink that sh*t.

Well when you finally buy one, first thing Im going to ask you is how the Kentuckian Ape Drape Sled feels !! :thumb:

Back on topic here, the Z06 was running a 100hp shot and apparently had problems in the second run. Its unclear what they are but the owner is posting over here http://racingsouthwest.com/forums/in...howtopic=21478 so hopefully we will know what the problem was.

[95bat]

Originally Posted by Verrückt

*sigh*

No, it's not just my opinion.

Does the Corvette have pushrods, low specific output, and leaf springs? Yes it does. I didn't say anything about whether or not the low tech parts work...because we know they work damn well. Compared to a new M5 though, the Z06 is lacking in technology.

Just so you know, the Corvette race car you are try to compare has very little to do with the street car. The first thing they do with the race car is ditch the leaf springs and put on some quality coilovers. That should tell you something.

Is the build quality up to the import brands?

No, and every published report agrees with that.

Sit in one of these if you want to see build quality.

Does the car perform? Of course. I never said it didn't. That's the reason I'll buy one.

The Z06 b*tch slapped the new M5 though.

And I'm not talking about the corvette race car... I think it went in the CTS caddy. The race series (i can't remember the name) requires that every part that is on the car is in a factory production car, so they don't take off leaf springs and put on coil-overs unless they are available on a GM production car. So with all production parts, GM is lapping the field... "technology" is not keeping up with "low tech" GM ... so which is really better?

Don't get me wrong here, I LOVE anything fast or fun to drive, no matter who makes it. I just hate the reputation GM has. Sure, Mercedes has incredibly luxurious cars, but Mercedes lost $1.1 billion the first half of 2005. That luxury costs money to produce and when you don't sell cars, you lose over a billion dollars. BMW is nice too, but I was not impressed with my old roommates 2004 325i. It is nothing special to me and way over priced.

[lunchbox660]

daddy wants one....

[RabidPony]

Originally Posted by Verrückt

*sigh*

No, it's not just my opinion.

Does the Corvette have pushrods, low specific output, and leaf springs? Yes it does. I didn't say anything about whether or not the low tech parts work...because we know they work damn well. Compared to a new M5 though, the Z06 is lacking in technology.

Just so you know, the Corvette race car you are try to compare has very little to do with the street car. The first thing they do with the race car is ditch the leaf springs and put on some quality coilovers. That should tell you something.

Is the build quality up to the import brands?

No, and every published report agrees with that.

Sit in one of these if you want to see build quality.

Does the car perform? Of course. I never said it didn't. That's the reason I'll buy one.

Ummm I really highly doubt the corvette has leaf springs. Its not a truck. If Im wrong well then I look like the **** but I just cant see em puttin leaf springs on a new sports car.

[CRISTIAN]

Originally Posted by RabidPony

Ummm I really highly doubt the corvette has leaf springs. Its not a truck. If Im wrong well then I look like the **** but I just cant see em puttin leaf springs on a new sports car.

top gear ragged about the leaf springs on the new c6, don't know about the zo6 model though

[JGT8229]

does n e one have another link to this video, when i click the link a bunch of writing just comes up on a page

[Verrückt]

Originally Posted by 95bat

And I'm not talking about the corvette race car... I think it went in the CTS caddy. The race series (i can't remember the name) requires that every part that is on the car is in a factory production car, so they don't take off leaf springs and put on coil-overs unless they are available on a GM production car. So with all production parts, GM is lapping the field... "technology" is not keeping up with "low tech" GM ... so which is really better?

And what racing series would that be?

Quit pulling things out of your ass.

Originally Posted by RabidPony

Ummm I really highly doubt the corvette has leaf springs. Its not a truck. If Im wrong well then I look like the **** but I just cant see em puttin leaf springs on a new sports car.

Look it up. C5 and C6 Corvettes (and others too AFAIK) use transversely mounted plastic leaf springs. It's not the same as what is used in a pickup...but is a leaf spring nevertheless.

[95bat]

Originally Posted by Verrückt

And what racing series would that be?

Quit pulling things out of your ass.




Look it up. C5 and C6 Corvettes (and others too AFAIK) use transversely mounted plastic leaf springs. It's not the same as what is used in a pickup...but is a leaf spring nevertheless.

Good god, you're so defensive. I can't remember the name of the damn racing series, but I'll go find the article on Hotrod if it means that much to you.

[bmxer99]

Originally Posted by 95bat

The Z06 b*tch slapped the new M5 though.

And I'm not talking about the corvette race car... I think it went in the CTS caddy. The race series (i can't remember the name) requires that every part that is on the car is in a factory production car, so they don't take off leaf springs and put on coil-overs unless they are available on a GM production car. So with all production parts, GM is lapping the field... "technology" is not keeping up with "low tech" GM ... so which is really better?

Don't get me wrong here, I LOVE anything fast or fun to drive, no matter who makes it. I just hate the reputation GM has. Sure, Mercedes has incredibly luxurious cars, but Mercedes lost $1.1 billion the first half of 2005. That luxury costs money to produce and when you don't sell cars, you lose over a billion dollars. BMW is nice too, but I was not impressed with my old roommates 2004 325i. It is nothing special to me and way over priced.

new new M5>new vette.

[95bat]

Originally Posted by bmxer8699

new new M5>new vette.

All I ahve to say is this:
The new V10 powered M5 makes its peak 385 lb.-ft. of torque at 6100 rpm.
The new V8 powered Z06 makes 385 lb.-ft. of torque at 1600 rpm It then goes on to make 470 peak torque at 4800 rpm.

That is ownage right there.

[CRISTIAN]

Originally Posted by 95bat

All I ahve to say is this:
The new V10 powered M5 makes its peak 385 lb.-ft. of torque at 6100 rpm.
The new V8 powered Z06 makes 385 lb.-ft. of torque at 1600 rpm It then goes on to make 470 peak torque at 4800 rpm.

That is ownage right there.

and the m5 is also a lot heavier and slower, whats the point? i'd still take one over the vette.

[95bat]

Originally Posted by CRISTIAN

and the m5 is also a lot heavier and slower, whats the point? i'd still take one over the vette.

If you want luxury, get a benz... if you want speed, get a Z06
The BMW does not fit into the equation hehehe

[bmxer99]

Originally Posted by 95bat

All I ahve to say is this:
The new V10 powered M5 makes its peak 385 lb.-ft. of torque at 6100 rpm.
The new V8 powered Z06 makes 385 lb.-ft. of torque at 1600 rpm It then goes on to make 470 peak torque at 4800 rpm.

That is ownage right there.

your tq measurements are incorrect for the new M5.