bleh new car bull shit agian

[97talon]

If you buy a car just for your friends you don't deserve to be driving. I knew all the shit I was going to get when I got mine, but **** it. I've always wanted one and I know the potential.

As far as buying a used car, especially a sports car (like the M3) once you get over 100k miles you could be in some serious trouble. You have no idea how that vehicle was driven, even if you have a history report.

[skyline180000]

Originally Posted by 97talon

If you buy a car just for your friends you don't deserve to be driving. I knew all the shit I was going to get when I got mine, but **** it. I've always wanted one and I know the potential.

Yea I agree. I drove a civic coupe with a gsr swap 4 a bit and got a lot of sh*t for it. Drive what you want for you and not for your friends. BTW They gave me sh*t till I beat them!

[EVILZ33]

Originally Posted by BOTLFEDLT1

Yah.. 11K for the first year E36 which is now pushing 16 years old that probably had the crap kicked out of it and was bought at the auction!!

$17-20k is for an 1999 M3 with 1-2 owners, good condition, low mileage, no accidents and full service history (i.e. the kind you would actually want to own and wont sink a lot of money into just on maintenance to get it sorted back up to spec.

still aint a bad deal imo but im more into handling and love rwd. but if he likes goig in a strait line he should get the srt

[BOTLFEDLT1]

Originally Posted by EVILZ33

still aint a bad deal imo but im more into handling and love rwd. but if he likes goig in a strait line he should get the srt

Trust me, man, I love rwd too. But dont discount the srt-4 as straight line only. A srt-4 won its class at the 2007 One Lap of America and came 5th overall in an event that has 12 different classes and 75 competitors. If you arent familiar with One Lap, its something like 6 different tracks over a week (must drive from one venue to the next) and there are a lot of heavy hitters that come out to play - i.e. lingenfelter vettes, RUF porsches, evo's, supras, lambo's, etc.

Pos Car # Vehicle Class Points

1 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 6760
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
2 Dodge Hennessey Viper SSGT1 BB 6470
Brian Smith, Nick Arevalo
3 Toyota Supra SSGT2 SB 6350
Greg Caloudas, Leh Keen
4 Ultima GTR SSGT1 BB 5905
Carl Warren, Sam Kimberley-Bryant
5 Dodge SRT-4 MidPri Sed 5895
Douglas Wind, Devin Clancy, Ken Brewer

6 17 BMW M6 SSGT1 BB 5865
Troy Fralick, Tom Long
7 25 Chevrolet Z06 Corvette SSGT1 BB 5860
Dan Corcoran, Kyle Corcoran
8 19 Ford GT SSGT1 BB 5765
Ernest Eadeh, John Fuchs
9 43 Subaru STI MidPri Sed 5710
Matthew Ball, Scott Siegel, Kenneth Martiatu
10 45 Subaru Impreza STi MidPri Sed 5615
Steven Rankins, Dale Teague, Jon Krolewicz

11 8 Cheverolet Corvette SSGT1 BB 5595
Steve Stubbs, Aaron Pfadt
12 15 Porsche 930 Vint For 5500
David Goodman, Neil Speyer
13 44 Subaru WRX-STI MidPri Sed 5440
Dan Schaut, Ben Schaut, Nicholas Schaut
14 10 Dodge Charger SRT8 Luxury Sed 5330
Eric Vickerman, Michael Scott McMeckin
15 71 Datsun 280Z Vint For 5295
Bob Murray, Matt Hubbard

16 63 BMW E46 M3 SSGT1 SB 5260
Peter Lier, Adam Breakey
17 12 MTM-Hoppen Audi S4 Quattro Luxury Sed 5225
Mike Bab****, Norman Bab****
18 11 Audi S6 Luxury Sed 5165
Tony Swan, Mary Seelhorst, T.C. Kline
19 40 World Class Mot S2K-SC SSGT2 SB 5115
Loren Edwards, Kevin Boulton
20 21 BMW M5 Luxury Sed 5050
Jonathan Czarny, Jonathan Miller

21 16 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 SSGT1 BB 4990
Mark Aaron Murnahan, Angel Morales
22 30 BMW M Coupe SSGT1 SB 4855
Neil Simon, Woody Hair
23 53 Audi S4 Luxury Sed 4835
Jeremy Herzberg, Eric Hulshart, Neil Deye
24 13 BMW M3 SSGT2 SB 4810
Roy Hopkins, Adrienne Hughes
25 34 Ford Mustang GT SSGT2 BB 4695
David Standridge, Tasha Standridge

[UKunt]

1 1 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 7095
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
2 25 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 BB 6595
Dan Corcoran, Kyle Corcoran
3 8 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 MidPri Sed 6520
Martin Musial, Ray Krolewicz, Jon Krolewicz
4 71 Honda Civic Si Econo Car 6475
Bryan Johnson, Jon Midgley
5 6 Subaru STi Top Speed MidPri Sed 6470
Luke Russell, Doug Wilks

6 5 Ultima GTR SSGT1 BB 6300
Karl H. Troy, Martin Troy
7 31 Noble M400 SSGT1 SB 6235
Derek Whitis, Seth Agnew
8 43 Subaru STi MidPri Sed 6155
Kevin Jones, Mark Donohue Williams
9 7 Subaru WRX STi MidPri Sed 6115
R. Buzz Clarke, Joel Lipperini
10 33 Noble M400 SSGT1 SB 6010
Chris Novak, Kiki Wolfkill

11 10 BMW M5 Luxury Sed 5960
Tony Swan, Mary Seelhorst, T. C. Kline
12 12 Porsche 996TT SSGT1 BB 5940
Manuel Da Silva, Christine DaSilva
13 42 Cheverolet Corvette SSGT1 BB 5940
Steve Stubbs, Leonard Way
14 4 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 BB 5845
Danny Popp, Bob Kasprzyk
15 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 5690
Ronald Adee, patrick adee

16 49 Dodge Daytona CS SSGT2 SB 5665
Michael Stimac, Steve Calder
17 36 Porsche 911 Turbo SSGT1 SB 5475
Chuck Veth, Adam Strelczuk
18 14 Dodge SRT-4 MidPri Sed 5340
Dale Seeley, Jamin Cummings, Nancy Becker
19 9 Jeep Grand Cherokee S U V 5330
David Zelkowski, Erich Heuschele
20 15 Porsche 930 Vint For 5230
David Goodman, Sam Goodman
id get a civic Si then as it came 4th in 2006...lol god knows how they get points. must be a weird way if a neon and a civic can place 4th and 5th...

[BOTLFEDLT1]

You get points based on how the judges score your drifting techique
JK.. its based primarily on laptimes (and i think there is one drag racing and skid pad event too). It rewards consistency and durability as much as speed b/c you need to drive your car from track to track over the week long event. One break down and you are out of the running. The civic did very well in 2006.. but far from stock obviously.... it was built and driven by a pair of Honda engineers (one of whom worked for the Honda F1 program in the UK) and had a supercharged 2.4 litre k-series motor swap i think (i.e. its not something the average joe built in his garage

"For each event, first place is awarded points equal to 5x the number of official entrants. Each succeeding position is awarded 5 points less than the previous. Thus, if there are 95 entrants, then first place for a particular event would be awarded 475 points with second place receiving 470, third 465 and so on. Similarity, class points for a particular event are awarded with first place receiving points equal to 5x the number of official entrants in that class. Thus, if there are 10 entrants in SSGT1 class, first place at each event would receive 50 points, second 45 and so on. A DNS (Did not start) or DNF (Did not finish) receives 0 (zero) points."

To be overall winner and class winner will be determined by the total high scores accrued from each of the contests along the route. Ties will be decided by the total elapsed time in competition events. Trophies will be awarded for overall standings and class winners.

Originally Posted by UKunt

id get a civic Si then as it came 4th in 2006...lol god knows how they get points. must be a weird way if a neon and a civic can place 4th and 5th...

[xtrasico]

Get what you like... not what your friends like. Read reviews, forum threads and general information about your options. And of course, ask questions.

Before I got my last 2 cars I researched the first one for about 6 months (VR4), and the second for about 3 months (Civic). Then I went looking for them. And since I knew a lot about them, I knew I made the right selection and didn't get a lemon.

Yeah, I have a Civic... and slow as hell since it is the LX sedan with the d15b7 engine and auto tranny. Nobody makes fun of me... at least nobody I know or in front of me. Maybe guys laugh at me on the highway, but who cares? I know I don't.

If a girl makes fun of me, I just smile back at her and shrug... they like that. Always let a girl win even if you have a better car (this applies to games too). That will get you somewhere... believe me.

And if some guy I know makes fun of me, I check his car, and if I can beat it, I tell him to give me an hour, and I leave to get my 3000GT VR4. The looks on their faces when I appear with my "other" car...

Funny! Funny! That's been really fun and I have done it a couple of times.

[UKunt]

Originally Posted by BOTLFEDLT1

You get points based on how the judges score your drifting techique
JK.. its based primarily on laptimes (and i think there is one drag racing and skid pad event too). It rewards consistency and durability as much as speed b/c you need to drive your car from track to track over the week long event. One break down and you are out of the running. The civic did very well in 2006.. but far from stock obviously.... it was built and driven by a pair of Honda engineers (one of whom worked for the Honda F1 program in the UK) and had a supercharged 2.4 litre k-series motor swap i think (i.e. its not something the average joe built in his garage

"For each event, first place is awarded points equal to 5x the number of official entrants. Each succeeding position is awarded 5 points less than the previous. Thus, if there are 95 entrants, then first place for a particular event would be awarded 475 points with second place receiving 470, third 465 and so on. Similarity, class points for a particular event are awarded with first place receiving points equal to 5x the number of official entrants in that class. Thus, if there are 10 entrants in SSGT1 class, first place at each event would receive 50 points, second 45 and so on. A DNS (Did not start) or DNF (Did not finish) receives 0 (zero) points."

To be overall winner and class winner will be determined by the total high scores accrued from each of the contests along the route. Ties will be decided by the total elapsed time in competition events. Trophies will be awarded for overall standings and class winners.

lol that is far to many things to think about..i guess the civic and the neon both had alot of money to play with..and well to go over america u must have a nic amount of money...

[Intak3]

yea i know i shouldnt be getting a car just for my friends and no there not scared of em one of my friends built wrx's owned a stage 3 srt-4 from a 50 roll... but thats the fastest suby in the crew.. i dunno i just dont like the interior on them i think they look good but how come everyone is selling the srt-4's for like 14 grand? with 30,000 miles on it? cause they've run into problems right? dont they have a reputation as a high maintence car? all my friends say the people they know with srt-4's are constanly fixing them

[American Psycho]

They where cheap new, under 22k if i remember correct.

Sounds about right

[97talon]

Originally Posted by Intak3

yea i know i shouldnt be getting a car just for my friends and no there not scared of em one of my friends built wrx's owned a stage 3 srt-4 from a 50 roll... but thats the fastest suby in the crew.. i dunno i just dont like the interior on them i think they look good but how come everyone is selling the srt-4's for like 14 grand? with 30,000 miles on it? cause they've run into problems right? dont they have a reputation as a high maintence car? all my friends say the people they know with srt-4's are constanly fixing them

I paid around 17K for mine 2 years ago. It was a 04 that I bought at the end of 05 with around 4000 miles on. The guy had traded it in when they came out with the commemorative edition. So 14K is about right. As far as running into problems the only thing that I had problems with was the tps wires and an abs sensor. Both were fixed under warranty. And did you ever stop to think that it could be your friends that are causing all the problems?

[UKunt]

why by domestic rice.when u can have real rice.LOL scoobys,evos ect they look better inside and out side IMO .

[JoseCR7]

id say to get a SRT-4 over a Cobalt just my opinion

[BOTLFEDLT1]

Originally Posted by UKunt

why by domestic rice.when u can have real rice.LOL scoobys,evos ect they look better inside and out side IMO .

Same reason why you are not driving a M3 (or why im not driving a ZR1 for that matter...) - cost.

Isnt an evo a lot more than a srt-4 or cobalt?

[UKunt]

you could get a 2000 evo 5/6 for that price here. and a even newer scoob..doubt u have 2000 evos 5/6 over there tho??

i guess he is getting a loan for the car?? so if so make it a good one if ur willing toget in debt for it....

kinda off topic. i see ghetto evos are pretty cheap.

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