What you think would be best...

[Soup]

You really don't want to do many mods to the civic, the only reason they made the 1.5 was to be reliable and get great gas mileage. If you want a fast honda, go with a prelude, a civic si, or a motor swap. You'd probably be just as happy getting a cone air filter as a cold air kit, you'd save a ton of money, get a more aggressive sound with a small improvement in throttle response, power, and mileage. Cat back exhausts are just about worthless on any car except for real sports cars, and from what I've read, they aren't really the best bang for the buck mods even on those.

Originally Posted by 01mmmz28

If you like honda, and you want a sedan, I say go with the V6 Accord in a 5 speed. They are actually quick, and they retain value and have the comforts you want and need.

If I remember correctly, it was only in the past few years you could get the v6 with a stick.

[Marek]

Originally Posted by 97talon

Every cold air intake i've seen for my car is 250+. There are some short rams for cheaper though.

oK JUST to be sure... COld air your not just talking about the cone air intake right, your talking about the tubing out of polished aluminum or that kind of style right?

Sorry i just find it retarded to pay for someone to take a piece of steel and a silicone sleeve/elbow drill a hole in and sell it for 250$..

05BLKSTANG I bought a cone air that was 80/100$ and its so hardcore i can wash it down with gasoline and it doesent even affect the colour. I would pay for a made kit for my car, and i'll even be replacing whatever isnt metal (in the piping) to brushed aluminum and i'll paint it black to match the rest of the piping. No fukcing way im paying 250$ for a cone and piece of 3" tubing. I much rather pay for dirt cheap tires to have fun blowing them up for 250$ than that.

If your just a bit creative you can come up with something really sweet and do it all yourself. Hell you'll spend some time outside, thinking designing...

PS: you can buy 12 feet of 3" aluminum brushed tubing for about 65$ (more than enough to repipe the intercooler. For 25$ more you can get it all polished.

[Memphis]

i'm a tard i thought ya'll were talking about intake intakes ya know what i am saying???????

[05BLKSTANG]

Marek I understand what your saying.
The point I made was if you want a cold air intake regardless of car your looking at $250.
The K&N filter (I'm assuming) stated cost around $100 itself.
I was amazed also at what they wanted for the intake.
If you can make it yourself for cheaper that's good for you. I dont recommand it. You may LOSE POWER.
The on board computer on my car is extremely sensitive, the length & diameter of the intake plays a critical role in where the mass air sensor is placed.
Also how are you going to bend the pipe?
If you look at cheaper intakes they use the 3" pipe and when it comes to connecting it to the throttle body hey use a 3" rubber elbow, than bending it.
The issue was never about making it just what the costs were.
Althou it is expensive, if you compare the filter to the tubing the price is right.

Originally Posted by Marek

oK JUST to be sure... COld air your not just talking about the cone air intake right, your talking about the tubing out of polished aluminum or that kind of style right?

Sorry i just find it retarded to pay for someone to take a piece of steel and a silicone sleeve/elbow drill a hole in and sell it for 250$..

05BLKSTANG I bought a cone air that was 80/100$ and its so hardcore i can wash it down with gasoline and it doesent even affect the colour. I would pay for a made kit for my car, and i'll even be replacing whatever isnt metal (in the piping) to brushed aluminum and i'll paint it black to match the rest of the piping. No fukcing way im paying 250$ for a cone and piece of 3" tubing. I much rather pay for dirt cheap tires to have fun blowing them up for 250$ than that.

If your just a bit creative you can come up with something really sweet and do it all yourself. Hell you'll spend some time outside, thinking designing...

PS: you can buy 12 feet of 3" aluminum brushed tubing for about 65$ (more than enough to repipe the intercooler. For 25$ more you can get it all polished.

[97talon]

Yeah, when you buy one that's done buy a company you are also paying for the R&D that went into it. They don't just make them at random lengths and bends. Making on yourself you never know what you are going to get.

[Marek]

Well if you follow and reproduce what you have out of rubber or whatever its made of it works!

as for the bends, you can get 90° 60° and 45° pre-bent tubing, if not heat it and bend it with a tube bending lever (35$) and voila.

Air Mass Meters are sensitive indeed, but not to the point where an inch will change something, and if it does, your stock computer isnt working for what you are doing. Also on older models you can adjust AMM's and on most newer cars its a Mass Air Flow sensor instead of AMM's.

I will be doing all that piping from the turbo to the intercooler from intercooler to intake in spring as the suction is so great that the tubings compress under load (shitty performance when it happens).

I still rather do it myself, as with time i learned that nothing is bolt on. Of course when you drive something the entire world drives yeah maybe there is bolt on. But i still would never pay 200+$ for a "cold air intake"

Im only down to pay for something i cant do myself. And its never better done than done by yourself.

And why wouldnt you recommend doing it yourself? Are you talking about N/a or turbo or both?
I just really dont see what the big deal is...

[97talon]

When you bend your own piping the pipe actually loses diameter in the bend. Going with a good company they can mandrel bend them and keep the diameter closer to the original.

[Marek]

Originally Posted by 97talon

When you bend your own piping the pipe actually loses diameter in the bend. Going with a good company they can mandrel bend them and keep the diameter closer to the original.

true.
BUT: if you heat it properly and take your time to do it right its good. Worst comes to worst, use straights, with silicone elbows and you dont have to bend anything. yeah the "flow" might differ but bleh.

[xXViperXx]

well here's whats going down with it now

here in a few weeks i'm gonna put it into the shop for a timing belt / water pump change, pullies and all

my uncle is now an assistant manager at a nearby mechanic/body shop so i can finally fix my exterior damages, and he gets really really good discounts on parts in general, aftermarket or factory, and as i said before, i didn't want this car to be a racing car, but more fun to drive, he's gonna hook me up with a new cold air intake, 4-2-1 piece headers, and a new exhaust system, which would be nice, cause now the engine will be more efficient, and will breathe alot better, after that, not sure what the next step should be, but so far, this is a start