camaro vs. laser

[Haakon]

Originally Posted by USofaKinWeTodEd

yay another video of some import that's been modded horribly with a retard driving it.
And hey look! Camaro shifts to 2nd and lets off cause Mr.Laser driver forgot to install his carbon fiber shift knob for those EL33T $l-lIfTz!

long since you got some "mushu" from your mom?

[burnout]

Originally Posted by USofaKinWeTodEd

yay another video of some import that's been modded horribly with a retard driving it.
And hey look! Camaro shifts to 2nd and lets off cause Mr.Laser driver forgot to install his carbon fiber shift knob for those EL33T $l-lIfTz!

i dont recall japan ever getting a DSM.

[burnout]

Originally Posted by SharpShooter34

That race happened here in San Antonio. The camaro missed going into 2nd or 3rd....the laser let off when he saw the miss shift and then floored it just to go. The puff of smoke at the end was his oil filter popping off.

As for reliability, it also plays a big role into who owns it. I know tons of dsms in town that run everyday without a major problem b/c the owner takes meticulous care of it. If you neglect any motor, regardless of make, it's going to go out on you. Just b/c it's a dsm doesn't mean that it's mechanically prone to fail. Fact is most of the cars were owned by pansies who drove them hard and never did any ritual maintanance to them and once a tuner got their hands on them crap started to go wrong and hence the jackstand warrior stereotype. I've had 2 dsms and once I caught the car up on maintanance they were extremely reliable cars.

Yea, what my bro said.

[90TSIAWD]

^ Halleluja, finally someone with a brain who's saying that other then me... thank you!

[99_FRC]

now that was gay whaat the hell happnd it seemed like the camaro wasnt even trying

[99_FRC]

now that was gay whaat the hell happnd it seemed like the camaro wasnt even trying

[DR.GONZO]

Originally Posted by 99_FRC

now that was gay whaat the hell happnd it seemed like the camaro wasnt even trying

yup, rather save his gas, Why waste his time

[SharpShooter34]

He was trying until he misshifted....the camaro is fast but it would have been an even race between the two. I don't see what is so hard to believe that the camaro mis-shifted in a serious race or why the laser is horribly modified. It was modified pretty well for the purpose it was used for. High flow fuel pump, adjustable fuel regulator, 550cc's, AFC, front mount (custom made from two side mounts), full intake and 2.5-3 inch exhaust, the bottom end was stout, the only thing that the guy did that was weird was he ran a Felpro headgasket....why, b/c his reasoning was that if the engine started to overheat he wanted to make sure the headgasket went first b/c the felpro headgasket is crap for a modified DSM. The DSM was a very fast car and hung well and beat many domestic cars. The camaro at that time wasn't very modified and it would have been a close race. I don't see why people get so closed minded about cars thinking that a higher displacement motor with more cylinders will always beat something with a lower displacement engine with less cylinders. It's all about physics. Power to weight ratio. So unless you're being sarcastic than why don't you leave your closed minded comments for some other forum because I, for one, am sick of the typical V8s are better b/c they're bigger.....the whole "no replacement for displacement is crap......I know a shorter stroke wider bore will benefit from more torque, but not everyone has to use this method to be fast. For every "Horribly moddified import car", I'm betting there are an equal ammount of horribly moddified domestic cars out there. So unless you know what happened stop trying to assume. Camaro mis-shifts, laser just playing around floors it for fun and the oil filter blows off (a common problem with 1G DSMs after '90....91-94 had different oil filter housings.....90 style had a larger filter and external oil cooler fittings.) This happened about two years ago and was on TexasRacingScene.com and the yahoo group sadsm. If you can find info about ToplessTurbo on any of the DSM boards you'll be able to see some of his mods and times. I'm sure your time can be spent on a domestic thread talking about how V8s have been touched with the hand of God and can never be defeated by the lowly import class motors.

Shooter

[NuggetMonkey]

Ford 302 1987-1993 5.0L blocks handle 500hp STOCK INTERNAL
WITH or WITH OUT boost .The small block Ford, the darling of the 5.0 crowd, in stock form, suffers from rod bolts thinner than an anorexic chick’s waist, weak connecting rods, flexy blocks and even more flexy head decks. The Ford 5.0 is also power bound by a poor flowing cylinder head.
I dont recall japan ever getting a DSM. Uh what?
Most compact car import motors are extremely robust compared to the stuff that the domestics have been putting out for years. This comment will draw hate e-mail from the lurking domestic fans but it is quite true. The truth hurts. Some motors like Toyota’s old school 2T and 3T motors and also the 3SG, 2JZ, 20R and 22R, Mitsubishis 4G63 as well as Nissan SR20DE, VG30DETT and L-Series motors are notoriously strong. The SR20DE for example can be reliably turbocharged in its bone stock form to nearly 2.5 times its stock rated power without internal modifications. In fact all of these motors can do it given the proper tuning and setup. Up to 20 psi and sometimes more pounds per square inch of turbo boost have been run through these motors in stock form, with the motors pumping as much as and even more than 500 hp to the wheels. Of course this is with careful fuel and spark management as detonation will kill a mega boosted stock motor almost instantly but it is all still very possible and even safe if you know what you are doing. This is equivalent to a stock small block Chevy or Ford pumping out over 1000 hp! Try sticking 20 psi through your Chevy LS1 or Ford small block and see what happens! I cannot imagine a bone stock small block doing that for more than a few seconds before blowing at least a head gasket
I have always battled dsm's with my 92 sentra se-r sr20det.The 4g63 is one hell of a motor. I'll leave it at that.Shaggy why you always have negative stuff to say..I've read alot of your posts and seems like you hate on everything. Dude do you need to get laid or something.. no offense just my observations.
Peace

[burnout]

yea i've noticed that about shaggy too

[American Psycho]

Originally Posted by NuggetMonkey

Ford 302 1987-1993 5.0L blocks handle 500hp STOCK INTERNAL
WITH or WITH OUT boost .The small block Ford, the darling of the 5.0 crowd, in stock form, suffers from rod bolts thinner than an anorexic chick’s waist, weak connecting rods, flexy blocks and even more flexy head decks. The Ford 5.0 is also power bound by a poor flowing cylinder head.
I dont recall japan ever getting a DSM. Uh what?
Most compact car import motors are extremely robust compared to the stuff that the domestics have been putting out for years. This comment will draw hate e-mail from the lurking domestic fans but it is quite true. The truth hurts. Some motors like Toyota’s old school 2T and 3T motors and also the 3SG, 2JZ, 20R and 22R, Mitsubishis 4G63 as well as Nissan SR20DE, VG30DETT and L-Series motors are notoriously strong. The SR20DE for example can be reliably turbocharged in its bone stock form to nearly 2.5 times its stock rated power without internal modifications. In fact all of these motors can do it given the proper tuning and setup. Up to 20 psi and sometimes more pounds per square inch of turbo boost have been run through these motors in stock form, with the motors pumping as much as and even more than 500 hp to the wheels. Of course this is with careful fuel and spark management as detonation will kill a mega boosted stock motor almost instantly but it is all still very possible and even safe if you know what you are doing. This is equivalent to a stock small block Chevy or Ford pumping out over 1000 hp! Try sticking 20 psi through your Chevy LS1 or Ford small block and see what happens! I cannot imagine a bone stock small block doing that for more than a few seconds before blowing at least a head gasket
I have always battled dsm's with my 92 sentra se-r sr20det.The 4g63 is one hell of a motor. I'll leave it at that.Shaggy why you always have negative stuff to say..I've read alot of your posts and seems like you hate on everything. Dude do you need to get laid or something.. no offense just my observations.
Peace

Its a long running joke with my dsm buddys,
I hate everything equally.

Just put me on your Ignore list if you dont like what i say, Simple as that...

[NuggetMonkey]

Not that at all..Just blowing off some steam..Your entitled to your own oponion..Disagreements is what makes the world go round..if everyone agreed on everything the world would be a mess..lol I guess..
Peace
jon

[American Psycho]

Originally Posted by NuggetMonkey

Not that at all..Just blowing off some steam..Your entitled to your own oponion..Disagreements is what makes the world go round..if everyone agreed on everything the world would be a mess..lol I guess..
Peace
jon

In all seriousness i respect anything fast

[Boostin86]

Originally Posted by 90TSIAWD

Shaggy are you going to respond?

Easy buddy dont get your panties in a bunch, I happen to own two of them and there more unreliable then my immune system. And let me tell ya, im sick offten. All shaggy was saying is the obvious dsms are infact not relible. Yes 400 hp in stock internals is impresive however like any other four cylinder it has its limits and little sh*t breaks all the time. Easy before you jump on his case

[bmxer99]

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