camaro vs. laser

[American Psycho]

its a dsm, i dont care

[90TSIAWD]

Good one.

[Prez]

Originally Posted by 90TSIAWD

They can be plenty reliable, just depends what level you take em to and how much time you put into what should be regular maintanence. DSM drivers just like pushing things (boost is freakin addictive) so naturally under 20 lbs or more of boost, things are gunna start breaking, and given the circumstances most dsm engines are under, it's impressive how well those cast iron beasts hold up. Very few engines could out pass the 4g63 in reliability under that much boost and with awd drivetrains that are 10 or more years old.

I have to agree. I beat the crap outa my DSM and it just keeps coming back for more. The reason they are sometimes unreliable is because DSM owners beat the shit outa them. Take any car that is under above stock boost conditions and gets beat on dailly, they all break, honda, ford, chevy... you name it they all have issues. I don't understand why DSM's get the bad rap?

[burnout]

people think there shitty because they get owned by them!

[SharpShooter34]

That race happened here in San Antonio. The camaro missed going into 2nd or 3rd....the laser let off when he saw the miss shift and then floored it just to go. The puff of smoke at the end was his oil filter popping off.

As for reliability, it also plays a big role into who owns it. I know tons of dsms in town that run everyday without a major problem b/c the owner takes meticulous care of it. If you neglect any motor, regardless of make, it's going to go out on you. Just b/c it's a dsm doesn't mean that it's mechanically prone to fail. Fact is most of the cars were owned by pansies who drove them hard and never did any ritual maintanance to them and once a tuner got their hands on them crap started to go wrong and hence the jackstand warrior stereotype. I've had 2 dsms and once I caught the car up on maintanance they were extremely reliable cars.

[American Psycho]

You guys have no sense of humor

Close friends of mine have DSMs its all in Fun

[GusGus]

Guys Dont Let This Thread Get Out Of Hand....some people can take jokes some can't

[90TSIAWD]

I can take a joke plenty well, if you're referring to me... however, shaggy's first remark, which is what led to my response, didn't come accross as a joke to me... maybe to someone "an unreliable race car" is funny... haha I guess

[American Psycho]

Dude, its over drop it

[90TSIAWD]

Dropping.... Dropping... Dropped

[93BoostedTsi]

That race was just sick.... That's one badass Laser with some nice top end

[90TSIAWD]

3rd gear is beautiful

[SharpShooter34]

Yeah, the guy from what I pieced together, had his car at a local shop and then left town. The car sat at the shop forever and ended up being parted out to local DSMers. He had some nice mods. His front mount was a custom deal from two sidemounts. It was a nice DSM. Didn't look at all like it had any kick behind it but it could move.

[evileagle]

too bad it wasnt an AWD.....otherwise it would have been 4x as bad for the camaro....

[burnout]

it is awd