Chrysler 300C SVT-8

[comp24]

If u dont believe me i could get vids of our bonneville from a stop goin to 60 with traction control on or off to prove the traction of the car.

[American Psycho]

Bonnevilles ( SSEI ) are Supercharged 3.8L Automatics FWD

Chrysler 300C with the 340hp hemi are not slow at all either.

Both are Grandma / Family cars

You guys will argue over anything on here....

[68 Vette]

Originally Posted by shaggy

Bonnevilles ( SSEI ) are Supercharged 3.8L Automatics FWD

Chrysler 300C with the 340hp hemi are not slow at all either.

Both are Grandma / Family cars

You guys will argue over anything on here....

onnevilles have 8's in them now, but comp i hate to burst your bubble, but dude they are PONTIAC FAMILY SEDANS. Find a new car, one that is actually nice, not a 4 ton boat with a V8 in it. Get a real car.

[American Psycho]

Originally Posted by 68 Vette

onnevilles have 8's in them now, but comp i hate to burst your bubble, but dude they are PONTIAC FAMILY SEDANS. Find a new car, one that is actually nice, not a 4 ton boat with a V8 in it. Get a real car.

oh yeah? shows how much i care...

[mattlikespeople]

my towncar has a v8 in it. does that make it a granny race machine? haha.

V8+FWD=RETARDED no matter how good the traction control is or the traction.

or for that matter, FWD=RETARDED

[Ramsie]

When I took my girlfriend to 6flags in GA we watched the 2005-6 dodges/jeeps/chryslers being test drove HARD

They had 300s and magnums drifting, even lit up the tires on a SRT-10 RAM.

Only thing that I didnt see was a viper

[Verrückt]

Originally Posted by comp24

Do you even know anything about northstar engines? The same engine is in the new XLR-V (northstar V8, same in the bonneville). And the caddy is supercharged. Yea u might have to do a couple small mods to make it fit but nothing with compression or anything. And the boneville has the best traction control out of any cars we have owned. Way better than our 2000 Grand prix GTP. Im not tryin to be rude but im just tryin to get the point across, everyone thinks pontiac's suck but then they got buy some GTO and modifiy it to hell. Alot of people do the same with other pontiacs to, including Bonnevilles.

There are many differences between the Northstar in the Pontiac and the Northstar in the Caddy...especially the supercharged version. The internals are not the same.

The traction control may work well, but it cannot overcome the laws of physics. Front wheel drive is never an optimal layout. If you don't know what a traction circle is, it may be worth researching for you. Also, weight transfer during hard acceleration...the weight of the car goes away from the drive wheels further reducing traction. All the traction control is doing is reducing the power to the given traction level and slowing you down.


From a review...

The first thing I noticed upon driving away is the car's size. It's big and feels even bigger because the driver has no idea where the extremities lie. There's a heaviness to the way it responds; for example Pontiac claims a 0-60 time of just over six seconds yet acceleration feels slower.

That time is much slower than the standard 300C...let alone the SRT-8.

Bottom line is that you may like the Bonneville, but the car is really in a different league than a 300C.

Also the GTO isn't really a Pontiac. It's a Australian Holden.

[Verrückt]

Originally Posted by comp24

If u dont believe me i could get vids of our bonneville from a stop goin to 60 with traction control on or off to prove the traction of the car.

Traction control doesn't improve traction. It can't. It just reduces power. The Bonneville goes zero to sixty in the mid 6's which is pretty slow for a V8 car. Many 6 cylinder cars in its class are quicker (Maxima, Altima, Accord, Acura, etc).

[7051072240]

Originally Posted by comp24

The bonneville GXP is a way better car than the 300c. The bonneville is maybe 1 or 2 thousand more but the looks are so much better. My parents have one and i would take the bonneville easily over the 300c. The 300c looks like a box.

This must be a joke.

300C is one of the sexiest cars on the market. Its not meant to be a performer but it'll eat a GXP alive.

Heres a slightly modded one I shot at the Portland Intl. Auto Show:

[chumeekabanana]

All you FWD haters need to rethink your stance on all that is FWD: Nothing and I mean nothing builds upper body muscles better than man-handling potent V8-powered torque-steer.

[68 Vette]

yup, FWD sucks complete monkey balls.

[Sick srt-4]

Originally Posted by comp24

Do you even know anything about northstar engines? The same engine is in the new XLR-V (northstar V8, same in the bonneville). And the caddy is supercharged. Yea u might have to do a couple small mods to make it fit but nothing with compression or anything. And the boneville has the best traction control out of any cars we have owned. Way better than our 2000 Grand prix GTP. Im not tryin to be rude but im just tryin to get the point across, everyone thinks pontiac's suck but then they got buy some GTO and modifiy it to hell. Alot of people do the same with other pontiacs to, including Bonnevilles.

Are you on something ? To SAFELY boost ANY vehicle, compression ratio should ALWAYS be dealt with. Provided that the vehicle IS NOT setup for it from the factory.

Originally Posted by Verrückt

From a review...


That time is much slower than the standard 300C...let alone the SRT-8.

Bottom line is that you may like the Bonneville, but the car is really in a different league than a 300C.

Also the GTO isn't really a Pontiac. It's a Australian Holden.

Well said dude...

Originally Posted by shaggy

Bonnevilles ( SSEI ) are Supercharged 3.8L Automatics FWD

Chrysler 300C with the 340hp hemi are not slow at all either.

Both are Grandma / Family cars

You guys will argue over anything on here....

And I gotta agree with above... I can't believe people are arguing over 4 door mid level luxary rides... You wanna race, buy something built for it.

[American Psycho]

Originally Posted by chumeekabanana

All you FWD haters need to rethink your stance on all that is FWD: Nothing and I mean nothing builds upper body muscles better than man-handling potent V8-powered torque-steer.

I thought that was quite funny, TQ steer does suck too

[weedface]

Originally Posted by mattlikespeople

no 300c vid here but i think the baddest luxury car is the sl65

If i had that car I would rock it like it was my job.

[nx468]

The 300c are pretty good looking cars, so is the GXP. But personally if I wanted a highway crusier and that had some gitty up. I would buy a slightly used 03 SSEI Bonneville , slap the pulley on it , cold air, and chip (seen a Regal and GTP have this setup they ran low 12s allday FWD). Save ALL kinds of money and make the 300c look stupid in any race. But that would be my personal choice for a highway car. This arent freaking sport cars ! cmon now.