Turbo OR N/a

[Marek]

i opt for turbo because since i got turbo'd im just addicted to boost.
Yes there is a lag in power, but if you drive properly and time yourself well its possible to never meet that lag point.

I would love to have a 4 cyl that can give out the power that i presently have. I would also love to try a 4 cyl with an S/c...

[Nortad]

It would really come down to what sort of application required, but for my everyday road car I´d take a good, high revving big displacement N/A engine because they allow bigger control over the power, with a decent size they offer good torque, and in terms of sound I think they have the upper hand over turbo engines. They give a better feelling to me than turbos.

But then again, it all comes down to what you are gonna do: if you go rallying turbo is the only way to go. It all comes down to what better suits you, althoough for absolute power turbos are the answer.

[GTIKEN]

For sure Nortad. It totally depends on the application. It also depends on the track ur driving. For a canyon road downhill id take NA any day. For a higher speed track where i know im going to be in the higher RPM range for a majority of the track (like spa or something, considering the same car) of course a turbo will benefit the car more. It would be interesting to ask a formula one engineer "if you could do anything, turbo or NA, what would YOU choose" I bet the answers would be just as mixed up.

[Marek]

delicious

its the entire vid on the Volvo powered opel Manta from Hilmersson Racing.


engine dyno

[Quibron]

Originally Posted by Marek

delicious

its the entire vid on the Volvo powered opel Manta from Hilmersson Racing.


engine dyno

Nothing like having a blower forcing air into the turbo that is forcing air into your motor

[Driz26]

I pray to the almighty god of boost daily so.......turbo.

[Nortad]

Originally Posted by GTIKEN

For sure Nortad. It totally depends on the application. It also depends on the track ur driving. For a canyon road downhill id take NA any day. For a higher speed track where i know im going to be in the higher RPM range for a majority of the track (like spa or something, considering the same car) of course a turbo will benefit the car more. It would be interesting to ask a formula one engineer "if you could do anything, turbo or NA, what would YOU choose" I bet the answers would be just as mixed up.

Yeah, id like to see what would they choose. I mean the last V10 where the pinnacle of what can be done for an NA engine, id like to see what they think of forced induction

[Marek]

Originally Posted by Nortad

Yeah, id like to see what would they choose. I mean the last V10 where the pinnacle of what can be done for an NA engine, id like to see what they think of forced induction

I say forced induction is too much for them to handle
F1's used to be turbo' carbed right? They were doing massive numbers and the cars were aggressive as hell!!! But so much restrictions have come into play that... Well hell, they are automatic now with ABS



I still Say TURBO FTW!

But ive seen 4 cyl N/A's produce 300hp!!!

[Nortad]

Originally Posted by Marek

I say forced induction is too much for them to handle
F1's used to be turbo' carbed right? They were doing massive numbers and the cars were aggressive as hell!!! But so much restrictions have come into play that... Well hell, they are automatic now with ABS



I still Say TURBO FTW!

But ive seen 4 cyl N/A's produce 300hp!!!

Turbo´ed but on fuel injection, and are manual-hidraulic sequencial thingies, not automatic really, its still the driver who does the changes, and they never had abs

[TougeMonster]

na cars have more speed while cornering so i like cornering more that drag sooo im with na...

[HKSevo]

i like turbo because you can change your power whenever you want with a boost controller


so if you wanna just cruise in a public area or just too save gas, all you gotta do is lower the psi and your good
Turn it up if you racing or whatever


for n/a cars you have to stick with the power you have without de-tunning or tunning or adding more shit
So if your n/a car is hella fast and you cant take off without burning the tire or have to start in 2nd gear, you will most likely not use it as a daily driver


Turbo with boost controller FTW!!!!!!!!!!

[Nortad]

Originally Posted by TougeMonster

na cars have more speed while cornering so i like cornering more that drag sooo im with na...

forced induction or atmosferic engines dont affect cornering speed in any way, maybe just power delivery on the corner exit, but thats relative because its a set up issue not an engine fuction issue

Originally Posted by HKSevo

for n/a cars you have to stick with the power you have without de-tunning or tunning or adding more shit
So if your n/a car is hella fast and you cant take off without burning the tire or have to start in 2nd gear, you will most likely not use it as a daily driver

again, thats a setup issue, not directly related to the way the engine works engine. What about turbo lag? high end power turbo engine have almost nothing in lower revs, so again you have to use a good dosage of throttle to gt it going without getting the turbo on anburning tyre.

It all comes down to personal tastes, aplication and setup, because either choice is valid if well engineered

[HKSevo]

^^^put a anti-lag kit on that bish

[SevPP]

Some funny comments in this thread. As I said na is more suitable for what I am doing. Track days, hill climbs sfa street/road use. And the fact that I already have a decent na motor to begin with helped sway my decision. If I had the funding I would definately go with a turbo motor- but with a decent turbo motor you need a better cooling system- oil and water, stronger gearbox, diff, clutch. Once figures get to a certain point the standard stuff just doesn't cut it. My na motor will make ~250rwhp in a car that weighs sub 1000kg. Much more power than this and things need replacing/upgrading.

[Marek]

Originally Posted by SevPP

Some funny comments in this thread. As I said na is more suitable for what I am doing. Track days, hill climbs sfa street/road use. And the fact that I already have a decent na motor to begin with helped sway my decision. If I had the funding I would definately go with a turbo motor- but with a decent turbo motor you need a better cooling system- oil and water, stronger gearbox, diff, clutch. Once figures get to a certain point the standard stuff just doesn't cut it. My na motor will make ~250rwhp in a car that weighs sub 1000kg. Much more power than this and things need replacing/upgrading.

+1

But wouldnt the same go with the same numbers but N/a? Once you reach a certain point you need to reinforce everything...