VETTE VS VIPER

[Ford88]

yeah no need to diss the 07 cobra cause anyone with a ****ing braincell knows its an expensive ass pos, that weighs too much and only makes 500hp f/i, when will they learn

less weight sleeker body and more displacement > more weight shit box looks and tiny ass motor with a shit s/c on it with the handling performance of a damn dodge 2500

shoulda stuck with the 03/04 cobra design minus the irs rear end, and with a s/c 351

[bmxer99]

well said comming from a ford guy lol^

[rydinturbo]

i know the vettea a better preformaning car, but ide still take a viper over one any day. with that big v10 up front, not to menchtion sitting in one feels like sitting in a jet cokpit

[Soup]

for the 2007/8 models, Z06 all the way. Z06 is cheaper and performs at the same level as the viper (I think the viper edged it out in the car and driver test) The viper is definitely cooler if your trying to impress anybody but other car guys, but anyone who knows cars will be much more impressed with a z06. So you can take that $15k and throw it into the vette and absolutely woop the viper, or spend it on hookers.
I liked the original vipers better than the mid 90s vettes though, I don't know where they were performance wise, but I remember thinking the viper was a cool car back then and never thinking that about the vette.

[HKSevo]

i like how the new vette door handles are (a button)......does that count as another plus to the vette

[/NDA]

Originally Posted by bmxer99

Z07 ZR1, my bad haha. but the hp your getting out of it will dominate the viper.. and you think the viper thats goung to have 600hp will be the same price as it is now?? yeah right lol

the viper already has 600hp, it already laps faster, quarters at lower times and has a higher top speed...

Originally Posted by motortrend

...ultra-low-volume car. Price will be much higher than the 505-horsepower Z06, and Chevy will continue production of that car when the ZR1 launches

if by much higher it's 20 to 35k over the Z06... all that logic of taking the extra cash and putting it in the vette gets reversed.

[01mmmz28]

^ you were the one in your previos post to say "the new zo6 will weigh more"
WRONG, IT WEIGHS EVEN LESS THAN THE CURRENT Zo6, it will have a curb weight of 2910 lbs w/ an engine that cranks out 650hp, you do the math. The best current 1/4 mile run by a new Zo6 is 10.8.......another 145hp and less weight should add up to a 9 sec factory 1/4 mile car. Doubt the viper will ever do that.

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Originally Posted by Winding Road

extensive use of carbon fiber and polycarbonate panels that may reduce the overall weight to below 3,000 pounds

i hadn't read that yet... and also:

Originally Posted by Winding Road

with a price expected to be in the $100,000 ballpark

since they are gonna sell the Z06 and the ZR1 side by side, i concluded that the main difference was the supercharger and not much else not to bump the price so much.

in any way, i'd rather have more fun than just driving the wheels off the freaking thing so i'd buy a '73 454 Stingray for a third/quarter of the price. invest some more in a better/lighter interior, new but small sound system, overhaul the suspensions/brakes, larger wheels, lighter rims, intake/exhaust and some extra parts to get a bit more power. total: maybe 50k, about 475hp/425ft-lbs 3250lbs classic dailydriver that will be more than just good at the track

[01mmmz28]

^ so I guess since YOU have not read that yet, it must not be true?? Go do some reading.

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don't get your panties in a bunch. i never said you were lying, there just isn't any official numbers THAT I KNOW OF so i just browsed around to see if i'd find anything to support YOUR CLAIM.

[STIvsSVT]

In addition to some of the +'s for the Vette so far, I have another.

Starting from when the viper was introduced, the Vette has won more professional races and series championships than the viper.

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but it didnt the ADAC 24h Rennen Nürburgring...

[STIvsSVT]

You pick one race to dispute a history of winning?

[01mmmz28]

LOL.....all I have to say about the recent past and current race series cars is

C5R
C6R

viper cant even touch those and neither can the other super car competitors.

Viper has always been playing catch up, or trying to do a "one up", but they always get their teeth blasted out by GM. This new 600hp viper sure does not perform like a 600hp car should, when the current Zo6 can match its performance w/ 95 less hp and less TQ and less of a price tag, it's a simple choice. And the new ZR1 650hp S/C'ed vette due out in 2008 will punish whatever dodge can think up w/ the viper. All you need on the 2008 model is a pulley swap, LT headers, tuning and you will have over 800hp in a 2910lb car......doubt there will many cars to touch that performance wise or price wise for what you get.

[vette12]

Also sidenote on ZR1: not sure where I read it, but supposedly Chevrolet is trying to implement some of the same software the Ferrari 599 Foriano uses to get all that power to the ground in a reasonable manner.

think about this: 650hp WITH perfect launch = untouchable.

It is kinda too bad for viper that they intended to stomp the z06 with its new 600hp '08, but instead reviewers still prefer the z06. Oh well, theres always next year. However, I do like the looks of the viper and those gaudy side pipes.